Bodhi Time Bandit and Goji

[minitiger]

Okay, here’s the Goji #3 report:

Looks:

Smells: It’s pretty noticeably burnt rubber and spicy. That’s the best way I can describe it. It took me a while to figure out what I was smelling. The spice was pretty evident, but that’s more on the back-end. There was something up front and center that I couldn’t figure out for a while before it occurred to me that it was obviously “burnt rubber.”

Taste: Kind of smoky, actually. I blazed some yesterday right after I posted the Time Bandit report and that’s the best way I can describe the flavor. It’s not “smoky” because it’s harsh or anything, it’s actually super-smooth. But it’s really a sort of “light and smoky” flavor. Doesn’t have any kind of “mouth-coating” flavor at all.

High: I really like the high of this one. It’s very meditative, almost trance-like. Really a soothing kind of high. This is embarrassing, but there’s only two things that make me rage and lose my head: driving and playing Madden haha. Other than those two things, I’m a pretty chill guy. I don’t drive right now, but I do still play Madden and I really do get pissed the fuck off sometimes when I play it. But I did a couple bong rips of this one yesterday and then sat down to play and was really in a groove. Seeing my blocks and following them when I was running the ball, only pressing R2 when I actually needed it, sitting back in the pocket and picking apart the defense… haha. I was also sitting there thinking about how silly it is that I get so mad about a fucking video game.

So yeah, it’s that kind of a high. One that makes me recognize the absurdity of shit that does not matter. Which is the kind of high I need right now.

And just in case anybody’s wondering (@nube ) , it was very easy to trim this one and it yielded 74 grams, the most of any plants this grow. Still not unbelievable yields or anything, but more than enough for me.

I’ll do the Goji #9 report here pretty soon, probably tomorrow. That one ended up being my favorite out of all of the plants and smells and tastes much, much different than the #3. I haven’t smoked any of that in about a week, so I wanna blaze some today and get a handle on it before I post a report. Both the #3 and the #9 ended up being stellar weed, though.

[HolyAngel]

Oh nice!! Thank you for these in-depth reports!

I’m one to a couple weeks away from flowering some Goji F3’s and they definitely have that burnt rubber then spicy smell on them, just on the stem rub alone even, still in veg so no clue on flower smells but this report is very encouraging for me to finish growing these out and pick a keeper. ^^

[minitiger]

Sweet! Are those Official Bodhi Goji f3’s (did he even go that far?) or are they yours or somebody else’s? Just curious. I’m sure they’ll end up great. I really regret not taking cuts of the Gojis (not that they would’ve rooted; I took cuts from all of the plants I’m currently growing and none of them rooted, ended up buying one of those cloning machine things for the next grow haha), it’s just such good weed. Are you logging your Goji f3 grow? I wanna follow along if you are.

[HolyAngel]

My Goji OG F3 seeds are from @Sincy and so far so good! I’ve f***** them up a bit with n00b mistakes but they’ve been pulling through and should be flowering here in the next couple weeks as I clear some room out. Have some F2’s from barefrog and some Orange Goji’s from 50State as well but haven’t tried any of those yet.

I am logging them in my journal but it’s mixed in with the NL’s I’m also running right now so gotta kinda scroll around. It will be going full goji’s here in the next couple-three weeks once I cut down the NL’s.

And yeah, I had to pick up a clone king 36 site unit. Works pretty good at ph 5.2-5.6 but I have had to play with plants in certain area’s. some will root better in certain spots than others.

[Sunvalley]

@minitiger

Are those Official Bodhi Goji f3’s (did he even go that far?)

Bodhi did go to f3 with the Goji. Testers were put out of that f3 back to Goji mother, Nepali OG.
Another mate over at the farm did a f2 of those testers (Nepoji) and also crossed it to the Gg4 cut and called it Adhesive Og… @SamwellBB may still have a few … they are so dank!

[nube]

Anxiety shit sucks, man. I’m sorry. Have you tried psychedelics therapy? Something as simple as self-medicating with shrooms once every few months helps a lot of people completely eradicate that shit.

You’re a lucky SOB to have run the Golden Triangle. I sure wish I could find a pack of them to preserve. I tried to buy/trade for the remaining 9 seeds from a guy on RIU, but he flaked out on the deal. I’ll just keep poking around and see what happens.

Maybe you’re onto something with it being EWC doing it for you. Different amendments, different genetics, or even slightly different soil mixes can all have an impact on this stuff. I dunno if terroir is “proven” or not, but like you said, it’s a real phenomenon and you’d think it would be. Maybe it’s similar to how the western world completely ignores Eastern medicine, especially ayurvedic medicine, or regards it as voodoo rather than medicine, yet it’s been keeping people healthy and fit for thousands of years… Modern synthetic petrochemical ag thinks they have it all figured out, yet you still can’t buy a good tomato in the store.

What kinds of bourbon/beer?

I tested two OMG crosses and had friends who tested a few others. Mine were Neville’s Kush 4 x OMG and Lemon Diesel x OMG. The grow threads are over at Breedbay. The K4 x OMG was really enjoyable effects but unstable and leafy. The LD x OMG was just leafy. Friends’ OMG testers were also leafy, but you’re right, I’ve seen a few OMG crosses that were pretty good - seems like about half of the ones that made it to release are OK. However, I think there’s a reason why he immediately retired the OMG male after a single round of testers, and it wasn’t because it produced too many winners. Just my opinion. As with everything, caveat caveat caveat and YMMV. lol

Goji OG nugs looking proper. That looks pretty similar to the goji queen mother cut a friend grew, but the flavors/aromas were quite a bit different, as are the effects. I’ve never been too into the Snow Lotus crosses, but I’ll probably grow out the pack of Goji at some point? I’d love it if it had effects like you described. Thanks for the review!

[SamwellBB]

yeah I want to do f2s of that one but things/strains keep getting in the way

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Okay, cool, yeah, I’ll start following that log.

So you think ph makes a difference in how successfully cuttings will root when you’re using one of those cloner things? That’s good to know. I never take into account ph levels of either my water or my soil, since I grow organically and all. It never would’ve occurred to me to even think about that once I start using the cloner.

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Yeah, I thought he had, but I couldn’t remember for sure. I actually just got one of Bodhi’s Goji crosses, just because I’ve liked this most recent Goji so much. Can’t remember offhand which one it was (fucking seed junky…) but it sounded good. It was some Goji pheno (Pinesoul, maybe?) crossed with the GHash.

I’ve heard about that Adhesive for a while now, too. Sounds good. I’m not a fan of GG, but everything I’ve seen of the Adhesive looks good. Didn’t you grow that a while back? I feel like I saw pics of your Adhesive somewhere, maybe at The Farm?

[Sunvalley]

Yeah i ran that cut i had of the Adhesive for a couple years. I lost it in the move to the new place, but have a couple crosses of it. Its really good smoke. The Nepoji f2 aswell
I just ran Bodhis Soul Mate (Goji Pinesol cut x Wookie)… it is a really great smoke, nice and terpy and not a bad yielder either… If you have it, grow it lol its worth the space

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@nube

Have you tried psychedelics therapy?

I haven’t tried psychedelics therapy per se, but I’ve eaten tons of psychedelics haha, back in the day. The last time I ate acid, four years ago (which was the first time I’d eaten acid in like fifteen years) ended up being pretty hellish, but there were a lot of factors in play that I think affected the experience (basically a three day coke binge and then, when I ran out of blow, decided that eating some acid would be a great way to end that weekend… haha!). Shrooms are a whole other thing, I’ve never had a bad experience with those and I’ve eaten tons and tons of them, although not in about eight years. My friend Natalie keeps suggesting eating some. I might. I dunno.

Panic attacks are, at least for me, not related to any sort of mental state. I’m fine. I’ve always been fine. I don’t really stress about shit. The first time I ever had one, I’d actually been sober for 4.5 years, worked out five or six times a week, had a great job, made good money, was single and loving it, had a great apartment. And then one night I woke up at like 3am and felt like I was dying. My heart was racing, I couldn’t breathe… I actually called 911 because I thought I was dying. Out of nowhere.

It’s just a thing. I dunno why they happen. I don’t think I need any kind of therapy, psychedelics or otherwise. Or rather, I’m not sure therapy would make me stop having panic attacks. But I might eat some shrooms anyway, just because that’s always fun as shit haha!

@nube

You’re a lucky SOB to have run the Golden Triangle.

I didn’t run the straight Golden Triangle, I ran a GT/GHash tester that Bodhi sent me. It turned out really, really well, though. I told B he should release those beans, but he hasn’t yet. Maybe he will at some point, it was only back in early May of last year that I sent him my final report. Good weed for sure.

@nube

What kinds of bourbon/beer?

Haha, no more bourbon these days. But it used to be Wild Turkey, then I switched to Jack. And my “every day” beer is Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Having said that, the best beer ever is Anderson Valley Summer Solstice. It’s a seasonal beer. I usually buy about fifty cases of it throughout the course of a summer and go,”This’ll last me all year!” Come October and I’m like,”Shit, man, I drank all of the Summer Solstice…” This past year COVID fucked everything up and I could only find two cases. It’s so good that I’ve actually been considering brewing my own, just because I found a clone recipe online for the Solstice, but I don’t really know where I’d do it. The growing shit has taken over every free space we have in the house haha!

@nube

I think there’s a reason why he immediately retired the OMG male

Oh, I didn’t realize B wasn’t making anymore crosses with the OMG. That’s interesting. Honestly, my two Smart Move females produced great flowers, nothing at all wrong with them. Hearing what you said, I’m super-interested to see how the Soars and the Dread Breads turn out (once I plant them). It’s been pretty difficult for me to find any info on the Soar, but the Dread Bread stuff I’ve seen, nobody was complaining. We’ll see how it goes…

@nube

I’ve never been too into the Snow Lotus

I actually haven’t liked the Snow Lotus crosses that I’ve grown, either. I’m trying to think what ones I’ve grown besides the Goji… I can’t think of any others offhand, but I feel pretty certain that I’ve grown at least one other… Oh! That Larry Lotus! So those are the two I’ve grown, the Larry and the Goji. I was thinking next round I may grow some of B’s Uplift (HA x SL) or maybe the Three Queens (Three Kings x SL). One of those maybe. There’s no info about either of those online at all and they both sound good, so… Seems like somebody should document them.

[HolyAngel]

Oh yeah I’ve noticed a huge difference in rooting depending on the ph. 5.2-5.6 seems to be the best/quickest roots, I’ve had roots in as little 3 days. 5.8-6.0 takes a bit longer, 1-2 weeks. Anything higher than 6 either never roots or takes like a month, and I usually have to foliar feed them too when it’s been that long.

[minitiger]

Okay, good to know. And you’re using tap water? And ph up/down to control the, uh, ph? I’ve read that tap water works best for getting clones to root if you’re using one of those cloner things, but I can’t remember if I’ve ever read that the ph of the water mattered. I have no clue what the ph of my tap water is, although I think I have a meter somewhere… I use RO water for my plants and used it for my failed attempt at cloning this last round, too. Soaked the plugs in a coconut water/aloe/fulvic/K silicate solution and foliared the cuttings with that, as well. Put them in the tray, put the dome on, set the tray on a heating pad with a meter to keep the temps between 78 and 82… The cuttings looked healthy for eight days, but on day nine, they were just straight-up wilted and gnarly-looking.

[HolyAngel]

Yup straight tap water and ph down. My tap comes out at like ~140ppm(70/30 cal/mag mostly) and ph 8.6 or so. Just ph down to 5.4-5.5ish and call it a day. I was dosing bleach but just switched to calcium hypchlorite (NOT Poolshock) and no issues with that either. I make a concentrate of it with 1gram to 1 gallon of water, and then dose 6ml/gal of the concentrate for every 1 gallon of res water, every 72hours.

I have experimented with a little bit of maxigro or megacrop and had good luck with that too. Seems to keep the plants going if they get roots and I don’t want to take them out yet. Talking like a 1/2 teaspoon in 2.5 gallons of water though. I’ve heard too much nutes will stop them from rooting so yeah, but it also helps keep the PH stable and lower the PH without needing much ph down.

I had done the dome and a DIY dwc tote for clones and never saw wilting, that’s real strange but again, i’ve always made sure the ph was within hydro ranges.

It took finding a random comment to try the 5.2-5.6 and yeah, made a big difference in getting roots for me. Before then I was always trying to maintain PH 5.8-6 and had less luck and it took a much longer(weeks) time to root if they did at all.

[nefrella]

I was just thinking about my clone king. I just recently had to replace a bunch of the emmitters, but works like a charm again. Clogged so easy, and only city tap water…apparently, we have harder water than I thought.

And, as to noob mistakes? Bwuahahahahaha - Im getting ready to mainline/manifold all of my GSCxLBF (GLG freebie plants) tonight, soooo, well should be interesting.

Going to be like a wicked haircut, fogl!

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@HolyAngel

luck and it took a much longer(weeks) time to root if they did at all.

How much do you think that had to do with genetics? Or whatever factors, i.e. some strains are just harder to root than others? And what about just adding like coconut and aloe to the water that the clones get misted with? I’m not doubting your method at all, but the things you mentioned sound awfully, uh, chemical-y. Is that a word? Haha.

[HolyAngel]

I haven’t had too much experience cloning but done a few different plants so far. Some do just root better than others, even among the same strain. But I’m saying same clones from the same plants, higher ph takes me much longer to root than if its in the 5.2-5.6 range.

I have not ever tried putting anything else in the water, I never use coconut water or aloe. It’s either straight tap water, or tap+nutes for me.

Don’t really need the bleach or anything to keep it sterile since the roots aren’t sitting in the solution, but i do just to be safe and know there’s zero chance of root rot from bacteria inhibiting my roots. Nutes themselves are totally optional and i’ve not noticed a difference in amount of time it takes to root with or without them, but the plants look better for longer if there are a little bit of nutes in there.

[Eudaemon]

I know traditional western medicine isn’t always the answer, but if you’re having anxiety that isn’t a direct result of conscious thought processes or maladaptive behaviors and coping mechanisms, then I’d recommend looking into a beta blocker like propranolol. It treats the physical manifestations of stress without altering thought processes or judgement–it will only help with the physical, not the mental. Surgeons use it to steady their hands and manage stress during operations. I used to use it before shooting competitions before I started to wonder if I was cheating. It’s non-addictive and has a very low side effect profile, especially used only when needed. It’s a wonder drug for anxiety, provided you didn’t consciously work yourself up.

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Okay, that sounds interesting. I don’t think I’ve heard of that. I’m loathe to taking any kinda pill, but I’ll check it out. When I maybe one day get health insurance. And can leave my house and go to a doctor without worrying about COVID.

Seriously, though, thanks for the suggestion. I’ll check it out. The panic attacks are definitely not from my state of mind. Like I said, they started when I didn’t have a care in the world, fifteen years ago. And I can go three years without having one. And then they just happen. It’s crazy. And irritating as fuck.

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It’s actually the Soulfood beans that I got, Pinesoul crossed with the Ghash. I dunno, sounded good to me. I’m not sure when I’ll get around to popping those, but they’ll get popped. One of these days… haha!