sorry to see that, I agree they are upset about your soil mix. or possibly overwatered, or rootbound, or lack of oxygen to the roots, or worst case scenario root rot. I can just tell from that appearance that the problem is with the root system.
kinda reminds me of my sad little kuato plant from like 7 years ago:
Yeah, what I think is interesting is the ones in the solo cups actually look the best. I have no idea what that’s about, because it’s not like it’s all the same stuff in those cups, but yeah, pretty weird.
I don’t think it’s overwatering, but it could be underwatering. Those solo cups don’t drain as quickly as the “official gardening pots” do; those little pots are always lighter than the cups when I water. Maybe I’ll give them a little more than I have been. I did finally water with a compost tea two days ago, hopefully that’ll get them going.
That’s a funny name. When I read it, I thought,”Kuato. Like from Total Recall?” Then I scrolled down haha.
I find the same to be true. Idk why that is. Maybe it’s the shape of the cup. Maybe it’s the size of the holes we poke in them. Maybe it’s Maybelline
Edit: now that I’m thinking about it, I’m thinking it’s because the cups have less surface area on top so the moisture is held in better towards the middle.
perched water table. the limbo land between capillary action and gravity. I’ve found after watering solos, waiting a bit then tipping the cup lowers the table and releases a lot of that.
Haha… I was thinking it’s the size of the holes in the cup. And the shape, too. And the surface area, just like you said haha. I cut those cups down a little bit so that they’re almost the same height as the starter pot things, so I guess there’s even less surface area than had I used a whole solo. Moving forward, though, I think I may just use cups exclusively and retire the little starter pots.
Still, that’s why I mulch everything, even at this stage of life. I’ve never had to water every day before, no matter how young or old the plants are, but I did water two days in a row on Tuesday and Wednesday. Everything looked a lot better yesterday, so I transplanted into the half-gallons last night. Some plants had enough roots to make it easy, some didn’t, but whatever haha. It’s done.
I don’t know what any of this means haha. Are you talking about a sorta “hydrophobic” thing going on?
I exclusively use solos also for the first few weeks as well. Very easy to transplant out of solos
What’s odd is that I usually have issues with the solos and the starter pots are the ones that work the best, better root development etc.
Who the fuck knows what happened this time? Growin’ weed is weird…. haha.
Everyone’s grow is different man idk, I water so little that it forces the roots to search for water and stretch out. I’m talking like 1-2 light waterings a week during the seedling stage. It works for me personally lol
I’m definitely not a professional tho that’s for sure so I could be bending myself over a barrel but it seems to work really well when I pop them outta the cups to transplant
Fancy science talk, lol! Dry peat is hydrophobic. Repels water until it is soaked. After it’s damp it absorbs water, and tries to keep it evenly distributed throughout the pot. Capillary action sucks it up, gravity sucks it down. Where one ends and the other begins, there can be a pocket of unsuckable water. If there’s too much, the plant can get overwatered.
Tipping the pot makes the pocket spread out, more susceptible to gravity, so more drains out of the bottom holes… at least that’s the way it works in my simple mind, lol! Coco doesn’t really care 
What size pots & modified cups are those and what is the soil mix inside? They look very shallow to me. I saw perched water table mentioned and shallow containers are going to have a larger percent of pore space occupied compared to the same volume of soil in a taller / narrow pot.
Is this re-used / re-amended soil or a new batch you made up?
I get that. It makes sense, anyway. I just like to keep things as consistent as possible and not have to “force” the plants to do anything. Just keep it la-di-dah haha. It usually works.
Right, which is why I water every-other day no matter what stage of life the plants are in. Something’s going on with my soil, though. I think. I dunno.
Yeah, I mean, they’re just little starter pot things, been using them for ten years, never had any trouble with them. They’re good for thirty days, usually roots develop fine and then I can transplant after a month.
Recycled soil, yeah, same soil I’ve been using for the last few years. I have a very foggy memory of me pouring a bunch of compost and an equal amount of pumice into the bins, I think it was maybe three months ago. Or maybe six months ago.
You know how schmarm was doing that? How he’d re-amend and also add more compost and perlite to his soil? I think I did that a while back, but I may have just thought about doing what he does and not actually done it. I’m not positive, but I’m pretty sure I did that. In any event, I was kind of sifting through the soil when I was filling up the half-gallons yesterday and it did seem like maybe the soil-to-pumice ratio was a little off, maybe not enough aeration, so zephyr was probably on to something there.
I dunno… haha. We’ll see what happens now that they’re in the half-gallons.
#1 Mountain Temple smoke report:
This was the plant when I chopped her, flower day 70:
Dried-and-cured flower:
Smell: This is the only Mountain Temple I’ve grown so far that has the same “Sprite” smell to it that I’ve read so much about from other people’s grow reports of her. That’s really what she smells like and has smelled like pretty much from the moment I trimmed and jarred her. It’s okay. I guess… haha.
Taste: Probably the highlight of this weed, she tastes like a weird sour fruit that I can’t put my finger on. Sour tropical fruit. Kiwi, maybe? It’s like a tart/sour thing, but not lemon and not, like, “sour” sour. It’s not “mouth-puckering” or anything, but there’s a very noticeable, uh… I dunno haha. “Kiwi” is the closest thing I can come up with. Tastes really good.
High: So I’ve come to the conclusion that it wasn’t the job and coming home tired as shit from work every night that was affecting my ability to appreciate this weed. It’s pretty much “getting ready for bed” smoke only. It’s not as hardcore as the Angelicas, but after smoking this one multiple times in the early afternoon and then taking a long nap an hour after blazing it, yeah, it’s not daytime weed.
I do like the first 45 minutes or so, though. It’s chatty and sociable with no raciness at all. What I think is weird is that my favorite two Mountain Temples from the first time I grew these had a similar “comeup” (if you could even call it that; those two were pretty easygoing smoke, which I like). Very laid-back and happy, chatty, sociable, comfortable, but they didn’t have nearly as “sleepy” a comedown as this #1 Mountain Temple does. Makes me wonder if its just because I’m getting older or what… I chopped the Mountain Temples I grew the first time on day 72, IIRC, but I do think I probably shoulda chopped this one on day 63, like I’d been planning, even though the flowers were still noticeably swelling heading into week ten.
One thing I do like about it, though, is that it is very good “getting ready for bed weed,” moreso than the Angelicas. This one I can smoke and take my time in the shower, happy thoughts haha, just takin’ my tiiiiiime, songs in my head and shit. And then lay down and crash out after twenty minutes or so. If I smoke either of the Angelicas before I get in the shower, I have to rush, just because I may fall asleep in the bathroom haha.
Still… Kind of a bummer that she’s not really daytime weed or even evening weed. I wanted her to smoke the same as those old Mountain Temples, but this really is just “right before the shower” weed.
Anyway, I’m gonna start getting into the #5 Mountain Temple now. I’ve blazed her a few times, but it was in social situations where we were all too busy talking for me to really pay attention to the high. She seemed pretty good, though. I didn’t pass the fuck out, anyway haha.
In other news, the transplants are looking pretty okay, for the most part. There’s still some stragglers for sure, but a lot of them are really taking off now. So that’s good. Little bit of burnt leaf tips on a lot of them, I dunno what that’s about, but maybe they’ll grow out of it. I dunno.
I don’t think there was any problem with my soil mix at all, pretty sure some of those plants are just freak mutants.
I mean, compare this one Soar plant
to this other Soar:
That’s not because of my soil, pretty sure it’s just a shitty plant. I’m gonna keep growing it, though haha, nothing’s getting trashed until I know the sex. Every female is gonna get flowered, I don’t care how runty they are.
Look at this one Mullum/Oaxacan x Dream Lotus:
And one of the Malawi Gold x Dragon Energy plants right behind her:
That Mullum etc plant is just a weird thing, I think?
Anyway, yeah, my soil’s fine. It’s the seeds that’re the problem haha… I’m still not sure what the deal with those burnt leaf tips is, though. When I transplanted last Thursday, I topdressed the new pots with a half-teaspoon of kelp and that’s it. I’m wondering if I even needed to re-amend my soil the last time I did that. I dunno. I went pretty light with it, too, think I added only two cups of that BAS Craft Blend to each 65-gallon bin.
Anyway, yeah… Plants look good! haha.
Some plants just pickier than others 
Mhm, it happens. I’m not worried about it. Some veg fast, some veg slow, some grow weird, we know how it goes haha.
I am pretty interested in those ECSD x Cherry West plants (and everything else, too haha) from stank. Apparently there’ve been germination issues and plants stalling out and shit, pretty curious to see if I can get them to grow. That was one of the reasons I picked those seeds, is just to see if I can get them to do anything. They’re for sure smaller than the Malawi Gold etc plants and some of the Soars, but they’re coming along…
Do you think it has anything to do with the tropical sativa genetics (Mullum/Oaxacan; Malawi; Columbian Red in the Soar)? Wonder if the soil is a little hot for them. Don’t have experience growing any but everything I read says they prefer less fertile soil. Doesn’t explain the ECSD x Cherry West though…
Hm. I don’t think so. I’ve grown a pretty decent amount of “tropical” stuff in this soil mix and they’ve all (mostly) turned out fine. Of course, that was earlier than the current grow, so… Maybe??? Haha. I may have re-amended before it was necessary.
I’ve read that stuff, on the ACE seeds website and grow logs and wherever, people saying,”Go light! These are Pure Sativas! They just want water!” or whatever. It could be true, I dunno. Having never really “fed” plants before, I can’t say for certain. And maybe my soil is too “rich” right now, I dunno haha. I’ve definitely been looking at the plants and thinking,”Alright, nothing’s getting added to the water this round.”
It’s just weed. I’m sure it’ll turn out fine.
Yup, that’s what’s nice about weed, it’s pretty forgiving. You can fuck up early on and still pull off a nice grow by the end. Did you say you kept them in those small pots for 30 days? You may want to try transplanting sooner next time?? I dunno, I’ve noticed in organic soil, when the roots can’t expand enough, the plants do weird things. If I were popping all those Bodhi seeds I’d try buying some cheap seed starting mix and mixing it 50/50 with recycled soil, gives the mix more aeration, but that’s just what I’ve pretty much always done, so it just works in my situation.
Plants are looking good in the new shoes, giving them more space does wonders!
I usually do, yeah, around there, but I transplanted the current plants on day 28. The root development was pretty piss-poor on a lot of them, but I just felt like bigger pots were what they needed and I should transplant them, even though most of them didn’t look “ready.” Some of them had really weird root development, too, like one of the ECSD plants had tons of roots, but only on one side of the pot; there was, like, nothing on the other side haha. That was actually what made me think that zephyr was on to something re aeration, like maybe one side of the pot didn’t have any pumice in it or something? I have no idea haha.
Yeahhhhh, I dunno… I’ve always just used the same soil all the way through, never had an issue before. I may add a little more pumice to each pot when I transplant into the seven-gallons, haven’t decided yet.
One thing that I haven’t been doing for the past year or two is turning the soil in my bins, I dunno if that has anything to do with it or not. Every few days I’ll just dump like three liters of water into each bin, but the only time I turn the soil is when I’m filling pots, so maybe I’ll start doing that again. I actually did that today, gonna try to make a concerted effort to continue doing that moving forward.
Who fucking knows…? Haha.
That was my exact thought on this situation. Maybe the soil needed turned and thoroughly mixed before making out the pots 
