thats what i thought and i see other bugs cruising around down there my NL seems to be kicking butt so flower the unhealthy plant…it doesn’t fit with my lifestyle! I looked that plant over good and they hang out in the sun…i dont know i clean her up and off to flower end of that story unless i missed mite but i doubt it could be the dirt fk who knows…next!
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It’s perfectly safe for people in the amounts you’d use. You don’t drink it. You mix 15mL of a 20% solution in a gallon of water and that gallon treats my lawn and indoor garden for over a month.
#1 pesticide in the world until recently. On every food crop you can imagine. Almost every thing you eat has imidacloprid residue on it.
I don’t need a bureaucrat telling me how to grow weed, the same people who’d throw you in jail for growing now want to mandate organic cultivation for god knows why. I don’t care how they do it in the warehouse you trim at.
Lol the government banned it so it must be bad. They banned weed too, so, grain of salt there.
Make up your own mind, people. Bleach is “poison” too but it’s in all tapwater. The amount used is everything.
(it should be noted imidacloprid isn’t the best miticide, better options exist. It is the best for thrips, root aphids, mealybugs, etc.)
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You continually use condescending language and make personal digs at people that disagree with your ‘nuke em’ approach. You obviously have zero experience with organics. I never told you how to grow weed. What I said is the chemicals you are suggesting are banned in cannabis cultivation and often banned for food crops in general. Despite your opinion, there are simple and effective ways to grow cannabis without the use of toxic chemicals you continually suggest are the only option that works.
As far as your trimmer comment - I’m the head grower for the largest care provider in the state. I grow more plants in a season than you have grown in your life.
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And I’m a doctor/spy/pornstar
Do, or don’t. Usually when people are talking about “toxic chemicals” they’re about to try to sell me some woo woo.
I’ll stick with what actual crop farmers use, instead of what the state has deigned allowable specifically for Cannabis, based partly on the assumption that sick people can’t handle any residues in even infinitesimal amounts doesn’t make any sense to me. If they can handle food, that invariably contains pesticide residues, they can handle weed with them.
It’s fine, don’t worry about it so much.
Once again, resorting to the same tactics. Insinuating I’m lying about my position and my statement is untrue. 
So, you’re saying ‘actual crop farmers’ use chemicals banned for their crops? I’m sure a fraction do, but those are the kind of people I prefer not to do business with.
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No, I’m saying Cannabis has restrictions on what pesticides can be used that are unreasonably stringent, comparable to any other agricultural product. Look at what they spray on apples a few days before harvest. They allow many more pesticides for tobacco, and that’s another smoked product.
I wonder if the morphine in the MS Contin a cancer patient takes was grown without pesticides. Probably not.
My point is, the extreme danger your camp seems to think every commonplace pesticide represents, is massively overblown. Lotta buzzwords like “nasty chemicals” “toxins” “synthetic poisons”.
I implore everyone struggling with pests to try the “organic” methods, like I did. And, when you’re tired of reinfestation, constant sprayings, ineffective measures like capsaicin and garlic, expense buying ladybugs and idk…rove beetles, making fermented juices out of nettles, etc etc…well there are more effective options.
I don’t work for Bayer Crop Science, I have no dog in this fight other than I hate watching people struggle when their problem is so unbelievably easy to fix. You do what the state allows you to do, I’ll do things the way that I feel is the best.
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Once you see SM damage you will know what it looks like, the leaves will start to get tiny light colored dots and begin to look unhealthy after a while.
Mites are hard to see and they move fast, they will be on the underside of plant’s leaves I have a strong hand held scope that I look for them with. They are very small when they 1st hatch, and once full grown they will lay eggs everywhere,
If you have a bad infestation it becomes very difficult to fix.
This is bad
Good Luck
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FYI ONLY!!! Check out Sierra Natural Science. OUTSTANDING products, to include Mite Control. You won’t be disappointed, I assure you. Last year, I applied by Spray every two weeks. Not a mite in sight AND non-harmful to my Lady Bugs/Mantis. Everyone, stay safe.
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If there were spider mites you cannot see them naked eye, but you can detect them by the white spots of the sap they munch, white eggs and their brown poo, can you post a pic of your plant? 
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And what kind of credentials do you have to make the statement that cannabis guidelines are unreasonable? Your own experience? You recommended Eagle 20. That is not allowed in the tobacco industry. Are the tobacco laws unreasonable too? You recommended imidacloprid to someone to kill springtails. I’d recommend you do some homework.
We’re the largest care provider in the state, and we’re spider mite free. How can you say organic methods don’t work? Because you tried something that didn’t work for you? No matter what did or didn’t work for you, the constant digs are ridiculous.
Ol Vern be like:
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I have not tried Sierra’s products. However, they are using rosemary oil for their mite spray which I find highly effective.
217 is made up of 100% pure rosemary botanical extracts highly water soluble. We process raw certified organic botanicals and herbs in-house, ensuring oils and terpenes have a consistent potency across all of our products.
Pretty sure I posted some studies about rosemary oil and it’s efficacy in killing spider mites in previous posts in this thread. If I didn’t or anyone wants the info, let me know.
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I do recommend Eagle 20 for powdery mildew. Adjust conditions going forward to prevent reinfestation, but to knock it out there’s no better solution. If you wanna dick around with sulphured oil and potassium bicarbonate be my guest. You have to, in fact, because the state says so. Let us trust the state on matters of weed growing…gimme a break.
It’s like you think I coat the plant in Eagle 20 every week. I use it less than once per year, if I notice an issue flare up. 2.5 mL/gallon dilution and I use maybe 1/3rd of that. So less than a SINGLE mL of an 8% solution of myclobutanil for every plant less than once a year on plants less than 2 months into flower…yeah, think I’ll be fine.
As you recall, OP thought he had root aphids, it just may have been a case of mistaken identity.
You probably have spider mites, you just keep the numbers checked with IPM. I do not have spider mites, however.
If you can’t handle it, block me.
I see the midsy nugs that come out of dispensaries; don’t pretend you invented growing.
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Again, Eagle 20 is banned in tobacco production despite how safe you think it is. The tobacco industry has a lot of clout. If Eagle 20 was as great and safe as you say it is, they would lobby to get it legalized.
Lots of people think they have root aphids. Id’ing the pest is key before you recommend treatment options. Even after a picture of a springtail was posted, you were still adamant about using imidacloprid.
I’m not pretending like I invented growing, and here you are yet again with the digs - acting like you have any clue what kind of product we are putting out.
Trust me, I can handle it. Like I said, I will continue to quote your posts as long as you keep throwing out the digs.
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Ooo Johnny Trimcrew threatening to quote my posts.
I stand by everything I say, unless new information comes forward.
Imidacloprid is harmless enough that even if you THINK you have root aphids, g’head and use it before they ruin your plants. Root aphids are relentless and spread rapidly.
Rarely do I see quality dispo product. Medicine Man is/was the biggest in Colorado and frankly their weed sucks. Who do you work for, exactly?
More digs. It’s unfortunate you can’t post up your opinions without trying to insult people or trash talk their product.
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Again, who do you work for, exactly?
I can handle criticism of the methods I use. I believe the benefits greatly outweigh risks. But you seem rather sensitive to criticism of “organic” methods.
Effective over everything.
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This shows your integrity. Effective over safety? How about effective over cost? Effective over legal? Just because you believe the benefits outweigh the risks doesn’t make it so.
You can’t handle the criticism of your methods, that’s why you resort to name calling and making condescending remarks.
You already said I’m lying about what I do for a living - now you want to know who I work for? Why, so you can do more trash talking? What exactly are your qualifications for making these kind of claims again? That you haven’t died from your own weed yet? Sounds scientific.
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Haha “Tegridy”.
A $40 bottle of E20 is a lifetime supply for me bud, not sure what you mean by cost. A bottle of Temprid will last me 5 years, and that’s using it for lawn and garden and house pest control as well. Kills fleas and ticks, too.
You do you, I’ll be over here watching plants grow and eliminating problems before they’re problems.
You can cut stone with a rope and sand over an entire day. Or you can use a carbide saw and do it in 10 minutes. It really doesn’t matter to me, you’ve already decided the effective methods aren’t what you want to use.
Yeah, who do you work for?
I really don’t think poor integrity is anything to laugh at. Thank goodness at least some people put safety before efficacy.
Who I work for is irrelevant to whether or not certain pesticides are allowed in cannabis production. Take your jabs elsewhere. Got data to show how safe igniting Eagle 20 is, post it up.
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