@Foreigner https://www.milorganite.com/
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I grew up an hour from Milwaukee and thats the same treatment they did in my hometown. Iāve been trying to remember what it was called for years! Thanks!
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I donāt advocate using your own shit but I found this fascinating:
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I landed on chemical 3 part in RDWC with all organic supplements/heisenberg tea. As long as you do a legit flush and harvest on time, I donāt see any difference in quality. The only difference is in vitality and yield. I have yet to find an organic macro nutrient that can touch good ole green, red, and brown GH. Always open to suggestions, though.
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Milorganite smells like ASS (literally) when itās wet, but show me softer, greener, lusher grass. My bermuda grass loved it, and itās seemingly impossible to overuse.
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@JoeCrowe are you growing outside. If your bud doesnāt burn properly, itās more than likely because you are harvesting in the daylight. Try harvesting before the sun comes up when all of the microbes and nutrients are in the roots
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Well then your tomatoes taste as good as the ones from dirt? Not saying they canāt be since the ones we get are picked too green. I only know what I pick from the garden is far better than any I get from the store or a farmers market for that matter.
Hydro and coir equivalent here? or we talking no media and baskets? Technically coir is not hydro but I think it a good mix of ease and makes use of standard potsā¦while hempy buckets seems a real nice mix of some of the same principles. With coir there are mixtures such as Tupur that have perlite and basalt added that seems quite good in my experience
But I am not a professional grower. I would expect that there are some professional growers who are all organic. In fact we might even just go ask Danny Danko? IIRC they have highlighted at least one boutique grower in Calif
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I would say itās more likely it wasnāt dried properly, or enough. I understand the idea of harvesting after a dark cycle, but I never do.
You seem to be pretty knowledgeable though, so I canāt say for sure. Just my thoughts.
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That is something I like to do. Harvest at the end of their dark cycle when the plants have used up all the starches they stored to feed on while the lights are out. I know many who donāt and canāt say if it is better since itās all I have ever done but it works for me.
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I actually read an article about it. It really is a thing. The bud will have more flavor and burn properly of course if itās carried through with a proper cure. I couldnāt find the article again when I talked about this before, but I remember @ReikoX had posted a quote from Jeff Lowenthals book Teaming with Microbes that talk about it. So carry on with dark harvests, your bud is the better for it.
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Drying and curing is definitely an art. I agree that is probably a main factor as well
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I prefer organic and kelp, lots of kelp, and lots of molasses. I like to flush with tea, regular black or green tea. I think it cures better, with a better aroma and flavor. Finally, organic is not as harsh a smoke, and when you clear a bowel, the ash is very fine because there is no non-organic potassium or phosphorus still lurking in the plant unflushed. Marc Emory did an article before 2000 about the fact that the tobacco industry also used heavy P and K frets at end of tobacco life cycle without flushing, and considered it a primary cause for cancer and other diseases. I just think it tastes better and smokes better w I th far less paranoia. Just my 2 cents
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Iāve always wondered when smoking indo if itās very good for you when smoking something grown with chemicals. That black ball of ash that remains is always concerning.
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I always wondered about that. I grow indoors in coco and have no issues with poor burning or black ash. I use a simple blend of the GH trio with CaliMagic and Epsom salt. Never get that black ash people talk about. I know it happens but I do wonder what causes it?
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I wonder if itās certain nute lines or just really heavy feeding? It doesnt happen in my organic grows, but every bud I have smoked from a dispensary has had it.
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I still havenāt tried the dark harvest. I also sort of read about keeping the plant in darkness for a couple days first.
Iām not sure what the reasons are but maybe itās the same process as what youāre saying but just a more is better thing??
I believe @Papalag does this. I always wondered about it and then it seems like I came across an article or it was on another forum from someone I respected as expert, I donāt know. I should look it up I guess.
I have one plant that needs to come down and I was thinking about trying it. At least the harvest before lights on.
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I donāt believe the whole extended dark period personally. The plants get on a schedule. They photosensitize in the light and store starches as food for dark as they transpire. Now they do transpire in the light as well but keep creating said starches. Since they are on a schedule they tend to store what they need so it is pretty much used up by the time lights go on. Extending the dark seems irrelevant. That said I just smoked a huge joint and took a couple shots of whiskey so I may not be the guy to listen to 
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Are you saying all buds youāve bought from a dispensary burned like shit and was black ash?
Iāve had some shitty dispo weed, but also some amazing shit. It depends where you go here. But none ever burned to a black ash. Even the toxic tasting shit that I knew had to be sprayed with some bullshit.
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No, it didnāt burn like shit, it just all burns down into a black ash ball not light gray dust like my organically grown weed. Iāve had bomb dispo weed and bomb indo as well. I actually crave indoor weed once in awhile. Itās very different from the outdoor weed I grow.
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Is the indoor denser?
I wouldnāt know if the weed Iām smoking turns black anyways though since I use a vape and it all just turns to a dark green or light brown.
But if I donāt dry a nug enough before I vape it will get darker and can kinda get a little blackish. The wetter shit also will clog up the screen quick.
I should bust out the bong, but the vape makes my lungs happier.
Hereās what the ABV bud looks like. You can use it for edibles still or whatever. Iāve made butter with it before. Not bad, but it does have a little stronger weed flavor than unvaped stuff. It also is a heavier and more sleepy high than the original weed. Iāve just been tossing it though lately.
I have this box by my vape so I just dump the vaped shit in it. Itās time to empty this thing again. ~a#.
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