I think he was talking rhetorically. When you (a person) buys his gear you (that person) is being ripped off. With a big hypothetical “if” in front to boot.
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if you buy a pack of genetics, you are the owner of the genetics, and whatever you do with them is up to you , if you find something better than the breeder and sell it what the problem, the person who got the genetics got them form someone else buy them or something they don’t come out of the air like magic
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I said distasteful. Its subjective. And you are being reductive and dismissive of the effort it takes actual breeders to make something special, not just “find” it and your attitude smacks of ignorance.
But if you want to justify his practices at his prices to yourself, go for it. When did I say he couldnt do it or didnt have the “right”?
The illegality of his packaging is objective though.
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even if you disregard the fact that he legit stole seeds and rebranded them, hell i just couldnt even grow a snitches gear, even for free.
videos in this thread just scroll up
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im after genetics not the breeders personal life
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might wanna start with who he stole them from if your after genetics as with his you never know whats in the pack
good luck on your grow for real though, hell maybe even tony green gg4 ril is in their
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yes i can go to the original breeder but buy 10 original packs and put the time to find the same pheno , why not pay for a persons work that they put into them to narrow the possibilities to the best ones, don’t matter what breeder you buy from is the same stuff you get , everyone is working with the same breeds around, everyone put the price to his work, no matter breeder is up to you who you decide to get your stuff from , as i say im after genetics not breeder , if a seed breeder put effort in the breed then will see if is worth to spend the money or not, i got mines for free, i want to see how is his work is what is the hype on the genetic pool he is acquiring, that you don’t like or hate the breeder don’t means he don’t have stuff is worth to buy, plus i already have references of people growing the genetics for years already that why i put my eyes in this genetics, and most of the genetics he have most are not available from the original breeders so if he is the only source of a cultivar you are after you prefer to never get it just because of what some hate to a person , you are the one limiting yourself of getting what you want if hes the only source left
I get it, we all wanna save a buck. (How you do that at $500 a pack, I dunno, but thats a different issue.) But that justification leads to bad things scaled up though.
Dont care how I got it or what happened to get it to me as long as I get it.
Like I said, if you wanna justify it, go for it. I find what he does distasteful and parts of his business practices literally illegal, not the weed part. Says a lot about how he does business with the stolen IP on his packs and the entire attitude/marketing of his brand being about irreverent theft/copying. It is literally his brand identity. Shows how much he respects other peoples work. I dont support that, even if I get genetics. You do you boo. I never said you couldnt.
But if you miss the irony of him being worried about people stealing his look and pretending to be him I cannot help you. Could also be him lying about that and burning his own alt accounts when shit hits the fan on them. Makes as much sense. Cheers.
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It’s one thing to pull a nirvana and sell copies at a discount. It’s another thing entirely to charge the same or more than the original breeder. Anyone can self a clone.
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you have to be extra mega lucky to find a price pheno in only one pack of seeds, these people pop hundreds of them to search for the clone, yes everyone can self a clone , but takes time and lot of seeds to find the proper one, time that cost money soil nutrients and power if you are doing it indoors, so that means every breeders work out there is not worth the price just because anyone can self a clone, and if you buy a certified clone form any breeder try to get it original is gonna cost money too, who want to give his work for free??
copycat doesnt work the strains he steals 
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hell copy cat even stole the name, he’s not even the original copycat
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He’s even copycatting the art on the packs. That’s “Felix the Cat” on the the front of that one pack. I really doubt he paid royalties to use it.
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And then, once they’ve found that “certified clone,” they self it and sell you the seeds - and the seeds, being essentially a F2 of a strain that was a 1/1000 pheno hunt in the first place, end up being a 1/1000 pheno hunt as well because basic genetics and Punnett squares. Self-pollinated plants don’t just magically end up producing seeds identical to their parent, you know.
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you dont have to explain to me breeding i know about it, and an S1 is not an F2 we are talking about fems not regs
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F2s can be fem . . . Who explain what??? Irony is truly dead. Who has the popcorn?
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A S1 is exactly a F2, just made with two identical parents. If the two identical parents have heterozygous gene pairings, those heterozygous gene pairings will be passed on according to the Punnett square - at 25/50/25% per heterozygous pairing. That’s a very wide range. Feminized seeds also aren’t magical identical copies of their parents. They’re just seeds produced by two identical plants. It narrows the range of the pheno hunt, but it doesn’t make it any less of a pheno hunt.
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S1’s behave like F2’s. You clearly don’t know what the Phuck your talking about.
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S1’s are a crapshoot you get the good the bad and the ugly.
I’d just as.soon run f2’s of the f1’s
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yes im not gonna argue with anyone here, when you have hate you express hate is all, justify all your hate on here, like i say i know about breeding, is all i gonna say don’t have to give any lectures to me here