I’m sorry that you’re wrong and angry about it. 
Stick around and read with an open mind, there’s a lot to learn here. Happy growing! 
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loooooooooooool dont reflect on me , wanna se how angry i am go to frosty buds stream and see me there crying about it hahahahaha
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Did I express hate? Cannot remember that but I am a stoner so coulda happened. Or are you calling not supporting someones shady business and explaining why that is “hate”?
You told us why you did, to get what you want regardless of the breeders “life story”, and I told you why I didnt, his, admittedly, subjectively distasteful and objectively illegal business practices which reflect in his chosen brand identity, which may itself be stolen. Has ZERO to do with whether you can find 
in his packs or not.
No hate. Not agreeing with your decisions isnt hate. Doesnt mean you cannot make em as anyone agreeing or not agreeing with them is irrelevant if you dont care about their opinion. But then thats the point of the thread isnt it? What a pickle.
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an S1 is not an F2 we are talking about fems not regs
You know that you can make fem filial crosses, right? F2s are just crosses of the F1s. If you use the same F1 selection you call it an S1 but it’s still an F2. Two different selected F1s are also F2s (even if they’re both female).
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F means sibling not bother and sister you can have fem f2. S denotes self which is in the name. if 2 different sibling females made beans they would be fem f2 beans. It is semantics at this point but I think that is the confusion explained. I believe the s1s are f2 comment was describing the phenomenon of wildly different phenotype / recessives that can pop out if you for example s1 a f1 cut since in an f1 presumably most loci are heterogeneous. Behaving very much like a true f2 generation and creating new homozygous recessive loci associated phenotypes. We are all agreeing that s1s, f2 (reg or fem) can be wildly different from the parents.
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S1 are the equivalent of taking twins and making fem seeds, basically the same as f2. But because there’s less genetic variation in the parents, it just makes isolating the ”elite” traits more likely.
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I think the important thing to rememeber is GCH was talking out his butt and seems a few lectures would do him some good. Humility wouldnt hurt either. Whether expressed with “hate” or not. To critique the attitude of the other side, since we have all been judged by GCH, butt hurt might be fair. Seems all but one here has a good grasp on breeding terminology.
No hate, just amusement and, honestly, some sadness.
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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha LMAO
I believe you’re wrong. Selfi or Sister donors will increase filial generation. The S is just to know its a fem and how many times selfied.
You can also bx to its mama clone but i still consider that S2 if you didn’t introduce any new males or fem donors
I heard he buys for European companies and repackages. All his photos have them dumb kid filters on it making the color nowhere near real. Also heard the real copy cat passed away and this guy took his genetics his daughter has some she dropped
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It seems fitting that there’s a copycat of Copycat. 
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This person whoever it is doing this has some serious bad karma going on , wow. It’s ine thing to pheno hunt and create killer crosses with artists work but this guy has it all. You got greed, mindless unimagination, thievery, ignorance of the highest caliber and straight up disrespect directly in your face. I would never support this type of person or his “work”. I am sure this guy will get what is coming to him in this World or the next. You don’t spit in the face of hard working people and expect to just walk scott free. I would do everything in my power to doxx and locate daily this type of person. They deserve whatever they get. Im sure he doesnt sleep soundly every night feeling totally secure. Evil lives in this mans heart. Never support copycat ban him forever.
Rant over carry on.
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Personally I would like to see him get what’s coming to him now in this world, not later.
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Lol so many people I’ve talked to despise his herm gear.
Another one bites the dusttt
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thats an old de bunked myth about a guy named logic
I grew some of his gear. He is legit. He invented his won hormonal spray for reversals and made an oxygen tech running high pressure 2 inch pvc at 58 degrees.
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Well hell, I’m going to put all my faith in your word @JimoTex. You’ve been here a day and this is your only post. 
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if only you knew the truth. R.I.P Olin Grant.
https://chuckersparadise.com/threads/let’s-get-something-straight-about-copycat-genetics.2512/
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lemme guess it was colloidal silver 
fucking clown go back to which ever shitty forum you came from.
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