I think the acidity in the agent orange jack terps in combination is a starting point…kinda throws you off when you think of ao and dirty skunk but that acidised orange pheno might just be the breeding tool to find it…cannasuer have held that agent orange f1 2009 from sub a long while and I’m now reasoning why it’s kept around so long…its something in the make up of that plant that’s a definitive cog…you would have the heady potency via the jack terp so potency validation is on point before you start…gooey found a popsicle bubblegum afghan pheno recently direct from source via the military procuring the seeds and them source phenos turning up and crossed to that ao male frightens me in what you can pheno hunt…I’d put a pitch you would find some serious roadkill skunk origins along that route…at least in terp profile…its mixing that salad bowl correctly and awaiting an outcome…and its close I believe in my heart
1993 orange line
Some of the taller plants with spear buds are ridiculously pungent.
I also have a skunk line from the same year and same guy. Obviously im working the line pure to see what I can do with it but did a few outcrosses in the process with sour strawberry, 88g13hp, melon lifesaver and have chem d and ecsd lined up.
Funnily enough I did both the original orange and skunk line preservation around the same time and have a bag of mixed seeds of the two tagged tangie in a bag hah
I don’t want to extend much for different reasons but you have to take in count twos things :
- the best cheese cut i’ve smoked in my life of stoner was done by the guy we are talking about
- everything skunky is selected heavenly in his hand, like a fcking 6th sense. And even if there is no hint of skunk inside. Receptors, nose, i don’t know … but for me it’s a true signature.
- the specific AO selection we are talking about, have made one lucky cup winner in chain.
For me it’s more a combo hands/potential that a mechanical aspect.I’m totally unable to have this signature no matter how much AO and JTR i have to select.
At 25:00 into video talk about Sturdevant and how the cross-over occurs but the real gem is how he proved it. This might be what you are looking at with this and just a matter of finding the markers that locate it if it is caused by linkage. This seems like a very gooD project and the more I think about the more intriguing it becomes; great topic! I think that if enough people got involved in a project like this maybe something could be found out? Afghani is high altitudes so extra dry and mucho ultraviolet! I have a Lao Gold that’s skunky growing at 4000’ and 10% humidity 90+ Temps I did clone this male and smoked some of it and it gave me a little high super clear but not more than mild buzz. Not everything has to smell citrus to be good but the devil is in the details
Listening to it right now
I’m growing 10’ below sea level, 90% humidity and 70 temps. Could be a problem haha
agent orange in its earliest form crossed with a ghani/chem has unlocked the vault…
the lineage and history of this plant is historically favoured to be an integral cog in the roadkill wheel of fortune…its littered with the answers…and they sit here!!!
and look what sits right at the top of that lineage tree in agent orange…skunk 1…it hasnt surfaced here like an outright sweet skunk and showed definition to that effect…its sour and acidic and straight slap bang right in the late 80s with how I remember skunk that stained walls with the stink…I’ve tried the breeders pablos cheese(Colombian goldxexodus cheese)…straight exodus…and spacecheese…this pisses and shits on anything I’ve ever seen him do so I think when he quoted roadkill…he wasn’t fucking about…I mean he can’t… he’s too well respected on the circuit…lololol…its seedsman and that secretive ghani chem crossed with that ao…and I think I may have a pheno in terp value even the breeder himself didn’t see full value as I think he’s under leds I’m not sure…this hps formula on this pheno tightened leaves and opened the thiol terp to such a degree you cannot mistake it…I’ve smoked pure exodus cheese personally from the breeder collective and that was something special…I put my house on this being a notch above that…I’m an old wily fox when I intent on flowers and this instance hasn’t happened in decades testing for anyone…and I’ve tested some killers believe me…nothing near this in terp value and thc saturation and you couldn’t be more precise if you tried…I quoted cannasuer are one of the best breeders on earth today and I’m sticking to it…and he don’t shout about anything he does…just rolls dice for you to find the lucky seven…bravo!!!
Trust me, the specific AO selection in the sequence have played a big role. At the point to have made someone wealthy in this circle after this step, not planned to be successfully and multiple cup winner ^^
Same thing happened before, long time ago, with the Cheese i was talking about and from the same circle.
The making-of listing of the JTR is correct. But the one of the Agent Orange is improper and let say very evasive. But it don’t have to change one bit your feeling on the source of the potential, i just disagree on the unlocking factor. It’s an human one, and one of the most naturally skilled i’ve known to unlock this kind of funk.
To be more clear, i’m one of these old ass that don’t buy anything on the sudden “RKS” popping in the trends and stoner’s mind. There is no “RKS” for me, but just the most valuable and intense lines of skunks. I push even more, for me the Cheese is just a strange variation of this particularity.
Before Dutch Passion introduced their sugared skunks (it was their flagship initially, with high standard of quality that outperformed sensi and serious), it was not a kind of unicorn. Then the street opted for the super skunk, much more practical to smuggle and to grow.
I digress maybe ^^
The plant is superb and well grown at least. But i don’t made the missing link between your post and the pics sorry ^^ The shape is heavily worked in bonus.
…the seeds and geneset I was most interested in was a once revered jack the ripper dominant agent orange with history and validation crossed into seedsmans sbg og(code for chem/afghan)…the breeder reported extensively that the fruit punch was the highlight of the breeding program collab with seedsman and proceeded to write report he was giving dudes serious whites sampling cured hits…I took due note of this established guy mentioning this knowing the respect he has in knowing wtf he’s doing in regards to breeding…I understand his tolerance from the flowers I’ve seen is not to be played with so decided to put my test to the test and test my freinds new stoner material at the time…I wanted in on this cross as the contributory same jack used 20yrs ago by gooeybreeder that bought me one of the best electric highs I’ve had to date is used here again…I want that sativa headthump jtr leaner in the fruit punch…roadkill to me is a passing interlude in my real foundation of what I’m seeking…the parent plant “fruit punch” (sbg og x agent orange f1)is heavily sativa and jack the ripper(ao) leaning…over 5ft and 14 arms are well adjusted for ample flower at 29 days flo here…I’m searching this plant primarily for that knockout jack terp…if its been whiting ppl…I’ll find it!!!
…and the breeder does a near 50 plant pheno hunt and finds a short roadkill description afghan/nl looking pheno that flakes the guy back to 1985?lolol
I think seedsman by the looks of what you found in that pheno has shown what they were using to create this roadkill combination…both phenos didn’t exhibit much upward growth…just spurted slightly and thickened…I decided to top one main arm on this roadkill pheno to see its reaction at 10 days flo before pistil formation
…and true to form on most afghan descent origin…the surrounding flowers clamboured to protect the topped flower rather than creating approach to thicken and grow around the head as most sativas like to do…when I saw the lower flowers run to protect that head I knew this wasn’t going anywhere upwards in flower…and I think that trait will run through every roadkill as I believe its an afghan origin plant seedsman used in that sbg…the bouquet of fruits I reported widely that had this jolly rancher fruity twist to the stem rub was to close to chem for me…like alarmingly close…so I think these heavy indy leaning roadkills are the parent afghan chem seedsman secretly won’t mention on that was used…maybe the reason it blew your nuts off and whited ppl like you reported…whatever the grade of this dominant indy afghan or chem…its crossed into a Vegas casino lottery plant in agent orange…and mere conditions and grow styles and enviroments are furthering what is actually hiding underneath this almanac of lottery genesets…pic shown here has taken 40 ltrs in 29 days over 6 waterings…testament to soil hydro systems that work…
I will also report on this pic roadkill pheno…the vapours from this plant are burning my nose ever so slightly when I breath it in…turning heavily sour and acidic as with the killer roadkill…just nowhere near as pronounced…sweaty sock armpit bo babysick is close if I can call that description…but the vapours are sour…basically there all fxxking mental plants Dan…my ms patient will be most thankful of you in the coming moons…and that’s why I love ya.!!!
I will not lie, what make me happy is that you’re on fire ^^ Try your luck, make some seeds and come in the ring. But it make more sense with your details, it was hard to follow for me.
I liked the gooey and afgooey of Gooeybreeder, it’s a good old fashioned dope that not vanish or cap at the middle of the blunt. In bonus the guy is a pearl.
gooeybreeder is forever one of the true freinds ill have online and has been a true gentleman the whole 20yrs I’ve known him…very intelligent and one of one breeder to ever make me sit and question my whole shit on a headstash dark desire sample he sent me yrs ago from cali sealed between a goats skull in a boxed envelope of goodies…you never mess with gooeybreeder I know that…guys got genes that will floor an elephant…!!!
Low or high terpinolene in this type?
I understand your thoughts dude…I’m not here to entertain finding a holy grail all of a sudden and be questioned by my peers on the validity of any claims…I’m just growing and reporting what I find…its not about having an understanding in believing what I say…my only instruction is to document something I think contributory to the wider audience…it might not be a class of roadkill definition you want to believe in because the mainstream narrative and mere mass audience would never have it believed in but something I’ve not seen in a few decades turns up which has definitely caught my eye and attention…to the point I’d rather report on it than not…lololol.
I misunderstand your question?
Is the level of terpinolene high or low compared to other types? You might not know this which is fine, not everyone takes their type to the lab.
too scientific for me bro…lolol…its heavily thc saturated and one stinks like a roadkill skunk I remember from 30 yrs ago…if that helps…the obnoxious loud I’ve witnessed many times in my career but not as thick as this…
Yea had a good stinky one back in 81, seeds and all hehe! Actually it was a small field, stinky and tasty at same time
and the more you delve into reporting stuff online…especially anything roadkill it always seems to come with heat and distain in course when suggestions are made that may be pivotal in seeking some kind of answers…I get all poirot and investigate everything I grow with a passion before I even grow it being a tester many yrs…months of thought and planning were put upon the fruit punch from cannasuer seeds before I ever sowed a seed…Good growers are 100 %selections first and growing comes afterwards in my mind…this selection process didn’t spring these genesets by chance from an inexperienced tent breeding project…this agent orange x sbg was stress tested in breeder lab conditions selecting through many phenos…and this was my primary choice in selection…the roadkill pheno found and sent in seed form were mere extras I had no idea were coming in the first place…once I saw the pheno pics of the roadkill buds online I sowed 3 roadkills reg photo and sprung 2 females that I’ve just sat and stared at the whole time growing…lolol…I’ve been amazed truly how its become possible to stick a terp profile…no,I’ll rephrase that…glue a terp profile so definitively precise and exacting in value to a hit I recall from my youth is probably the reasoning why I’m here like I was 20 yrs ago harping on about the kryptonite I’d found in seed form that still to this day in high form for me hasn’t been surpassed…the only truly narcotic euphoria description attached I’ve ever witnessed on any weed plant period.
no pressure on the roadkills!!!🫡 I have a gut feeling greatness has shown me payment for the love I grant even showing online tbh…lolol…I have a greater understanding and teaching in wanting to help others grow weed but I also come online and want to battle robbers and thieves and its my downfall…I get banned from everywhere for war…maybe because I know I’m not here online forever and only passing in reality…I got too much life offline to worry on this old bullshit so I just end up at war with the blaggers and still grow the best stock they seen right in there face and I don’t lose sleep!!!..but the caring ppl who have love for others and just generally do good by how they come online I do relate to…and there’s a lot of good ppl over here…ppl I would never come and mug off reporting some bullshit…its not my make up really…I try to teach others…maybe new and starting, in easy ways to grow and ask ppl to watch what I do…so there’s a teaching with me…behind all the mouth and blag and sentiment that makes some believe I’m this bad person seen over a few member names here…I’m just a passionate geezer who wants the best given to you…I get way heated when I see members not acting the way I would and start cheating ppl and since coming back online not 6 months have been suspended from numerous websites because of this…anger gets the better of me and I just explode because I refuse to live online growing weed around dishonest untrusted ppl with a smile on my face like nothings happening…this gut in me wants to act and my missus even said the other day I need to calm down and show ppl what your good at…she has a point and I want to and tbf that’s what i should be doing…good growers wanting to show you everything they do are priceless believe me…signing out!!!°