Hemp = Gold
The Irish version of Loki = Leprechaun
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Thats one problem of running numbers, not so much growing them, but keeping accurate up to date notes is insane
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If you have any data on your skunks could you send me some of the traits you are noticing and sex, photoperiod length, latitude, or anything you think is significant?
Make a chart and see if we can find it or at least where to look.
You need a nerdlinger to run numbers huh? Probably want him to grow a few and bug you all the time with questions. @Mithridate. I think it would be doable, to get a foreign exchange student to find some good Afghani weed seeds!
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Nothing on paper but I’m a memory freak 
I need someone to do the actual note taking…
I’ll come up with something visual. Or if it fails… I got 140 on the way to refresh seed stock 
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Less elitist.
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Personality of wet cardboard, can’t aim
Over
Paid actors, mama’s boy
None of that in my rooms lol
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It’s more the plants described in almost all breeding tutorials VS the real plants fighting against your artificial pressure.
I will try again.
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T’inquiete pas javais comprit… sauf vu l’ecart entre le plan et les plantes, peut-etre le plan daction etait amateur au mieu 
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Ou que le standard est médiocre et/ou juste productiviste ^^ I rather prefer a too demanding plan that i have to adapt than an adaptation of the selection to fit a plan.
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Parfois faut faire des compromis … ou… ou… stick to your guts and show some character
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Allez, un peu de franchouillardise ça ne mange pas de pain. Si on en abuse pas.
Je pense, avec pas mal de recul, que le meilleur compromis c’est une équation darwinienne sans équivoque. Un breeding plan qui n’évolue pas avec les plantes est tout autant un échec de mon point de vue que des plantes qui n’évoluent pas avec le breeding plan.
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Excellent point of view - from the top 
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I think that’s the best way to show that i’m liking methodologically the Spartan analogy ^^ And it’s not so off topic from my point of view.
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Lol, if you could sponge up
that cynicism it would melt holes in concrete, unfortunately though it’s also very true.
Which one is Leonidas? You know they look a bit soft below the neckline for Spartans right 
Yeah that’s the issue with pedigree breeding, not many stoners got time for that; and even if they did it would probably get lost.
The big idea behind bulk methods is they you don’t need much documentation bc you document sub populations as a whole instead of individual plants. The back cross method this thread is about is not really a thing cept as a method to introduce traits from an outcross. If only it was so simple!
There is a good description of the bulk method here:
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Part of my disinterest in taking notes is I haven’t found a format that’s less chaotic. I bet a searchable digital family tree would make it more pleasant to use…
In open pollination I rarely write down more than ratio of phenotypes and follow a trait of two. When I start to test males and 1:1 is where I need to keep track of everything.
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Notes is a real problematic to face and that can really change the awareness about the further developments of the pairings. Then it become exponential with progeny (the helper, not the problematic).
I think that the more easy is to set something overkill, that finally vanish because not realist in term of efforts and focus. To speak about compromises one more time, the hardest is to find one that offer fast “transcript” face to the plant but also a good duration in time.
When my memory was not enough trained, I’ve started to use an excel sheet per specimen with one overall photo every three days (with old webcams ^^). With one block for notes. I’m still surprised today how long it lasted (years), but i think that this overkill solution was important for the further upgrades.
The most advanced point i reached was a dedicated SQL server at home + dedicated tablet + barcod on each pots. I’m invested and paid someone to set it at one point. It was rational for my use at this time and a true gain, but overkill in the process “humanly”. The synaptic/mnemonic link between the plants and me was broken and i losted an hell of a time to scan barcod, only to “invoke” back the datas while i was checking the plants (outside notations).
So i started to put back the plant’s tag for a complementary approach, that finally totally replaced the whole. To this day ^^ “hunt the natural, it come back in force”
The game changer for me was the time I’ve spend to set mnemonic codes for plant tags and a process around it. It took months to set, and years to refine. It’s an error but i no longer do a photographic “phenotracking”, it’s mostly why i make grow logs to be honest.
For true notes (plain sentence let’s say), it’s generally useless because while trained you remember what you have to write on “who” and why, even years later. And even with epigenetics.
The true deal for me, and indirectly the true helper, it’s the hierarchy of the same traits in a single expression. It’s not something i remember accurately, and each time i’m watching the ancient codes of the plants … it give me a far better understanding of “recompiled” expressions and their actual dynamic.
All of this to just say that you have first to hack yourself, and that the best solution on the paper is not always the best in an “underground” unit. Specially when the guinea pig is also the breeder ^^
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I’m available for hire @Mithridate
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That is what has been said, hard to know without more research.
I wonder if it passed on, that is more for you big brains.
Seem like the proper application.
Many have wondered about this, it would be good to have answers to these questions.
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Gonna be interesting to see the results NOTSO and Caleb find when they release them. Both swapped all of their OLD SCHOOL cuts, chems, headbands, bubbas, OG’s etc. and since all originally were sourced from the same places/people they are looking to see the changes made over the years and through different unique environments. I’m of the firm belief plants change over time through different stressors and environments etc. but it’s just something we don’t fully understand yet…… although we’re on the verge of a ton of unique understanding of plants and their responses etc. I think in the next few years we will see some absolutely epic breakthroughs I truly do
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