I wonder if the so called male Y choromosome contains and apomictic gene and all we are seeing is a plant trying to self itself? @shag
Technically, agamospermy. I had to look up apomicty so maybe I misunderstood, but that normally refers to plantlets, etc. from what I understood on the Wikipedia page.
I recently killed all the males in a repro project because they hermed, then read somewhere that males that herm might indicate female sexual stability. I don’t know if that’s true, but after stressing the females by waking them up for 30 minutes in the middle of the night for a week none of them hermed (except the branches I sprayed with STS).
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Yea this Y chromosome thing has me puzzled and throwing all kinds of stuff against the wall no matter to see if it sticks. I believe when they looked at the hermi plants that produced seed were all XX right?
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Reminds me of this old circulated info. I heard the "visual " observation has a 85% success rate.
Hapi
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morphoid sound better than morphodite. It sound like an alien to kill on sight with Ripley aside.
I’ve seen a lot this thing since ages, but never figured out this detail before.
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Well I am wondering which chromosome(s) make pollen? XX can make pollen right?
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^^ cactus
In my book all can make pollen, but it’s just expressions. Nothing to have with the DNA and what make dioecious the cannabis.
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I have never seen a YY so don’t know?
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I guess they have found apomixis gene in hops… interesting.
If you have never grown monoecious cannabis, you saw plenty of them.
Would those be clone only strains or am I way out of my depth?lol
For hops they use rhizomes to reproduce so digging up the rhizomes and transplanting to new location where they will produce more.
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Talking more of the intersex variety thinking monoecious has fully formed female and male flowers if I remember correctly?
I consider the term intersex not proper for cannabis, it create troubles in the understanding of its already very complex sexuality. Morphodite (lol) being imho the right semantic considering how it’s expressed and how it’s passed, and imho also the right term to relate to a monoecious condition or to its tendancy, yes. But it’s just me ^^
Industrial hemp teach a lot on this matter, you have both (monoecious and dioecious) in stabilized versions with inbreeding depth that most of our growers don’t think possible (because marketing and their own myths).
Yes, hemp lines have been bred into full monoecity for ease of fiber collection. There are some seed food lines too.
These are genetically different from our dioecious drug cultivars though. The male exists for a reason, and it’s not because the plant is naturally monoecious, its not. a small subsection of the species has been bred to be in certain conditions but that is it.
There’s been some speculation that a portion of the drug cultivars have been crossed with those monoecious fiber/seed-food lines in the past.
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Couldn’t resist 
. I was under the impression that hemp is not a stable type and given enough time will revert back to the dioecious form. I read the when breeding polyploids they want to revert back to the 2N form.
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You’re mesmerized by it lmao ^^
Be frank, you want to smoke a weed that taste beer right ? 
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That’s my understanding of it also. I know from reading than it requires constant maintenance to keep mono hemp lines to be stable in that form. The preference for mono hemp varieties is to do with the different stages of senescence between males and females and the effect that has on the quality of the fibre…. I.e males begin to die earlier.
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It’s not Vic High but …
Professor Dr. Iván Bócsa, the breeder of Kompolti hemp (monoecy/dioecy/maintenance): Interview
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ah gotta love it
IB: The natural state in which hemp appears was and is dioecious. Monoeciousness is artificial in hemp, it can only exist with the help of man, and without selection, the dioecious state will return in two or three generations. It is therefore very hard and demanding to keep 90 to 95 % monoeciousness during seed multiplications.
but you got a bunch of these “breeders” over here intentionally breeding with herms and calling it natural and normal. “It’s what the plant wants to do”. “Just shave the legs.” “Pick the balls off, they won’t grow back”. “iT’s FiRe”
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On a real note, that’s a really interesting interview! It also backs up what I’m saying. We bred it into the lines on purpose. Then either on purpose or accidently, crossed them into some drug cultivars. Gonna have to go down that rabbit hole, thanks!
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