MY ?
Y not explore say 18HRS of lite / 6 hrs of dark NORMAL
18HRS of lite / 6 hrs of dark DIVIDE BY 2 …X. ( 9 LITE. / 3 DARK )
" DIVIDE. BY …3…( 6 LITE. /. 2 DARK )
" DIVIDE. BY …4…( 4.5 LITE. /.1.5 DARK )
EACH CYCLE represents a grow cycle . This should make the plants in their early vegetive stage grow faster and larger before the flowing stage is started.
MY ? Should this B EXPLORED
lights at night are cheaper and easier to cool and remove heat 
than hot HIDs in the noon day sun 
running 2 or 3000 watts of lights in a closed room in the day is like
running your AC unit while burning a wood stove
all the best and grow well
Dequilo
a plant needs x amount of light to produce optimal give it more no good give it less
no good
it’s finding what works for you in your grow setup with the type of plant you like to grow
what it takes the most is time
I can grow really nice flowering and looking Cattleyas but kill Paphiopedilums by the truck load
all the best and be well
Dequilo
I kinda figured that. I like my 18/6. Gives everything plants and lights time to rest.
Paphiopedilums are beautiful looking. You might have peaked my interest of growing something else besides cannabis. I always wondered what the flower market is like for growers. My mother works for a mushroom company that buys and sells mushrooms. She said that they have given people start up money to grow mushrooms. She knows I have grown psybicilin before, and some of the mushrooms you can grow are worth more per pound than any green that can be grown. Covid has hurt some of the food industry. Her company might not be able to make it.
as I run 2800- 3000 watts of light for veg I like my 14/10 as I buy power 
and it keeps everything where I want them as far flowering
I worked in the Greenhouse trade growing bench pot crops for Florists
I got to learn lots of things and put them into practice
lot you can do with light manipulation
I worked growing 50 % shade crops for the Interior Landscaping trade
it can be a very deep rabbit hole if you do get into plants
be safe and all the best
Dequilo
in case everyone hasn’t see it yet…
I was listening to a podcast and some supposed professional growers were talking about light dep and what cannabis farmer invented it and when, I was just sitting back laughing but concerned thinking these guys really don’t know anything about the commercial horticulture industry. All these huge investors dumping money into there grows and they think light dep comes from pot farmers lol. These are the same group of people who think tissue culture is some great new discovery … Light dep has been in use for centuries and was popularized in the flower industry so people can buy lillies at Walmart with pretty flowers on them out of season.
Biggest fanciest greenhouses I saw prior to the cannabis industry we’re giant tomato farms set up to harvest year round.
Thanks for sharing, very instructive 
, need a light meter now … 
we were taking green houses and growing cut flowers and potted flowers for florist
flowering long day plants in the middle of winter, doing long night plants in the dead of summer
it only takes one hour disruption.
one hour of light in the middle of a night cycle gives you a long day short night
an hour of light at midnight
one hour of darkness during the light cycle gives you short day long night
total darkness at noon
so simple we have been manipulating plants for a very very long time
@Heritagefarms My Friend I stopped arguing about this stuff back at the first OG
the pseudo science is off the hook it is not something I need
I did Meristemming (tissue culture) at Jones and Scully Orchid Nursery in Miami FL in 1983
in their Lab and it was old news even then
Hell we had started doing Foliage Plants in the Lab at one point
just science
I was starting Orchid seeds, unflasking seedlings and replanted tons of community pots
before they would even let me near their Lab
I love growing plants back in the 1980s in Florida I meet some of the Giants in Orchids and Bromeliads
that did go to the Amazon and collect unknown plants refine them and work them for a life time
and talk plants for hours sharing the knowledge freely
all the best and be safe
Dequilo
I should have no Internet, no PayPal all I can do is buy beans
but I did get a nice deal on some beans
Vermont skunk (dominion skunk×granny skunk)
The north (89nl(89 nl×90super skunk)
crosses to a ass/afkansastan/×18 takes American skunk selection (a.s.s) male
by a member here @Jamescoldflame so if I am spending more money why not support one
of our own
and 2 for 1 how can you beat it
so 4 packs of beans for 105 US dollars to my PO Box I cannot beat it with a stick
Thanks again Sir I look forward to trying your work
all the best and be safe
Dequilo
also no need to buy beans next year or the year after
bring on the Zombie Apocalypse
It’s a good thing that we don’t live closer to each other. I have a feeling that the 2 of us could get into some serious trouble together 
Yeah ive been trying to tell people that tissue culture is not used by the industry on a large scale for a reason , all of there sales pitches are almost opposite truths, if you can’t successfully keep and propagate plants from cuttings I’m not sure how much business you have in a lab setting anyways
There is far more genetic loss over long periods of time when using tissue culture compared to cloning, I’m not sure why this is so hard for some to understand.
Tissue culture , forcing a plants cells into a extremely extended state of slow to no growth - this leads to the slow loss of energy in the cells and the genetic material starts to degrade.
Cloning , allowing living cells to reproduce in the manner they intended , keeping new fresh growth and the genetic material inside happy.
People think they see genetic drift in there mom’s when in reality it is just poor mother maintenance and different phenotypic expressions based on the plants nutrient conditions, health and environment. Big learning curve for the folks who grew up with the bro science of mythes and assumptions.
Wow! wonderful pics and weed!
You rang the dinner bell
I spent some time on the old overgrow arguing with people who didn’t believe I was growing organic hydroponics. It was frustrating considering there were schools teaching people how to do this all over the place in the 80’s and I offered very easily understood explainations, or so at least I thought.
Almost 20 years later I see a you tube video were a old veggie farmer is having a absolute childish fit that hydroponic can be certified organic. Just because something doesn’t make sense to you doesn’t mean it is not reality for others right
I do agree with your thought my friend indeed
I did Meristemming not sure we are talking about the same thing I have no experience
with Cannabis I did it with Orchids it started in 1964 for Orchids and is done today
I will look in to Cannabis as I have an interest of knowing
I know if you surgically remove the Meristem
put it in a flask and keep it in motion it will grow for a long time how long that would depend
grow that cell mass larger divide it and so on it does not become a plant until it
is stationary than the pieces of cell masses become plants
not a bad read
all the best and be safe
Dequilo
Yeah we’re talking about the same thing, it’s those prolonged periods of storage were problems can develope. It has it’s purposes like sterilization of plant material from viral infections and certain other species specific applications.
On a whole though the idea that it is more efficient or effective for creating plant starts on a large scale seems crazy to me. The time involved, the cost of all the equipment and the space and time required to keep all of the cultures in good condition . I promise I can cut and root a clone faster then somebody can cut a peice of stem and turn it into a plant in a lab.
@Heritagefarms indeed taking cuttings is far easier and more effective cost wise
the plant I did is not even close to cannabis Orchid seeds they have no endosperm
so you are sowing them in a lab to begin with
from seedling flask to flower most Cattleyas take about 5 -7 years do a Meristem clone
you have cut you time in half
find that one true black flower orchid make seeds you hope and wait
clone it and you have the same plant and get the same flower
@Heritagefarms it is very nice to talking with you a real pleasure
I love plants all kind and growing them
Be safe My Friend and stay free
Dequilo
I’m a huge plant collector myself , have alot of exotic cactis and a bunch of random other stuff 
I feel like its just solely for the purpose of guys in lab suits somewhere bragging to each other “Hey Bill, check out what I can do.”