so the training has begun
Cookie Monster x UBC Chemo feeling the love a of a pair of scissors
more will come
make beans and share them
Dequilo
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Lead on brother, you are on the right path and I’m following.
Cheers
G
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A Real Update 01/08/2021
Ok all I have just started to train a few plants and cut around 30 clones
of five strain
I hope to root my clone and many just shit can the mothers from outside
just chop off 50 - 60 % of their root ball and put them in a smaller pot
cut of 75 - 80 % of the top growth and reveg them
as it will give me room something I will be way short of end no time at all
there is no way I can build anything fast enough
so here is a plant that I am test growing for @Heritagefarms it said vial B
and so it is for
it is an Auto-flower M/F I have never grown autos so I started them in cell packs
moved them to drink cups and 1 1/2 gallons
than asked pot size and founded out autos do not like to be repotted
oh so I moved them up to 3 gallon pots and the plant that is what you started in
we is all good 
back to the UBC Chemo cross I got from @OleReynard Thank Sir
is a Tank it sat in mud and wet still grew stayed green = a keeper
4 different Monster Cookie x UBC Chemo with some scissor training
I will let my seedlings go in small pots or drink cups until they are at
around the 4 -6 th node than cut them back to the second node then
wait four them to break new buds cut off two of the four true leaves off
let the new growth go than repot to a six inch square pot ( because I have them)
and off the last two of the first true leaves
and let them go
to grow brushes I grew for about ever under 400 watt light as they are cheap to run
easy to get and cost nothing to run
grow well and a 400 watt light will give you a LB every 8 weeks like clock work
but your plants need to be kept short
400s only penetrate the canopy around 40 inches with a 40 x 40 inch foot print
and just to make not the Plant Abuser comes from the training of plants not
killing 
anyone can kill beans/plants it takes a bit of work to keep them around to
abuse
as they say here the rub these plants on the bench are not suppose to be with me
but they lived so I grow them
I am so glad that I did not plant beans yet but took cuts as I can throw the mother
away if I need room
I will not be flowering anything over than autos
it is the LIFTA when you think or do not care if they grow the plant does
need them, have to have them, would just die for them and no grow
we kill our plants with kindness, we look at them as people like us
I thought this was Hash Pasion but it is Hash Passion(Moroccan) from my
note but remember I do lots of drug
this is Black and Blue from NEW420GUY I know nothing about it come from
the beginning of 2020 because it was cheap and I had problems with mites
same plant different shot love the color
another black and blue
His spin on Bruce Banner 3 again needed beans to kill so they were cheap
and if they lived different genetics
it is on the bucket forgot to look but it is coming back in a hempy
plants are starting to grow and it will be a real problem in the every nice
future 8 foot by 16 foot looks big but is not
so when you do not have room and cannot plant beans
clone
my water is on the edge of too hot but we will see and the moom are a bit
well feed
I find a hungry cut roots faster
so for now I need to do a bit of work as they pay
make beans and share them
Dequilo
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That made me smile.
You have a freaking jungle man! I lost count around 80 not counting the clones. Looking good as always.
You said you get a lb every 8 weeks. Is that per 400w light?
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@Papalag said I would see you at home was sqeaking to get my beans
bought
a pack of each on sale at Christmas
Jackberry F4 - Blueberry Indica X Sannie’s Jack
Killingfields F6 - The One X Sannie’s Jack
Selene F2 a Pheno of Killingfield
they all regular seeds I like Sannie’s work some of it and these are worked
and I need what they have in them
he is just so painful buy from but you do what you have to get what you want
make seeds and share them
Dequilo
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Looking good, I transplant mine also and don’t have issue as long as your smooth about it and don’t shock the root system.
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Thank You Sir for the chance to try your work
they grow well, I transplant all the time always start in a small pot and move up
over the years I have to take plant that have been flushed in soil-less because
of problem
to just knock off the wet soil-less repot it into dry soil and let come back start watering
or feeding correct
transplanting a plant is as harmful to the plant as you make it
your work rocks
Dequilo
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Those are some fire
I grew out killfields maybe 6 times great weed the purple phenotype is pretty but the green is much better
Selene is supposed to be the regular version of sugar punch so it’s got to be good
I run a rebel yell x Selene sinisters old gear it’s awesome
Never ran jackberry it’s on the list
I may still have some of his extremea in the vault but those are at least 15 years old lol bean hoarder
Yeah this site is home anymore lol
Paps
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THIS is also my mission…I truly believe that carpeting the world in mj would be a great thing.
People might not be as bitchy. LOL
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I did tester grows on that
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OK so this is the last of my seed buying for awhile as I need to grow things out
Second Sight F2 - Cannabeizein
https://www.cannabeizein.org/second-sight-f2-second-sight-x-second-sight
Goat Yogi - Cannabeizein
https://www.cannabeizein.org/goat-yogi-purple-goat-x-second-sight
NYCD x Second Sight - Cannabeizein
https://www.cannabeizein.org/nycd-x-second-sight
I had no choice but support them and try their work at 20 us dollars a pack
I do like what I read
got them here so we will see but I will tell you this purchase make me
feel right somehow about buying this beans
make seeds and share them
Dequilo
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Damn brotha, you time to sleep eat and poop with all that going?
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that is it does depend on things
Strain, grow style and so but there is 4 by 8 box I put up in the beginning of this thread
that had 3 - 400 watts light for 1200 watts and I was doing 1200 grams run after run
in pots
I did a couple of Sea of Greens that did better but a high plant count and in 2003 not
a good idea in New York
make seeds and share them
Dequilo
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Yeah thats something I need to work on. Cause I’m only get 2.5 per. To me that feels unacceptable. My lights pull 100w. I have two of them. And ontop of that I’m running DWC. So I should be pulling 200 gms. I only veg for a month though. I might start going 45 days for veg.
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@LilJonB sadly My Friend as to you and your yield with LEDs I am not the one
but I can help you with yield of plants
strain plays a big part I have always got overall better numbers from a grow with a single strain
or two very similar strains
at some point in yield you environment comes in to play they are all cannabis but they do
not all thrive in the same conditions as we all know
so you do get the idea
here is a points that I changed in my grow room (environment) I was running my lights out temp
around 62 -63 F so I bumped it up to 64 - 65 F it was noticeable how much it help the plants
to recover from my abuse
I work on getting better air flow and hot air extraction put in an 18000 BTU AC unit so I do
not get above 80 F with lights on
I keep it around 78 F I had very bad Mite problem and by controling my heat
I was running last year at the coolest 82 F
if you have mites at all and get them hot above about 81-82 the will breed like rabbits
but now my plants are getting healthy, my environment is getting dialed in I have got my
mites under control and I can start harden my plants to them and chewing bugs
I will start giving my plants at each watering Silica Blast which helps to harden the plants cell walls
since I did not add to my Pro Mix HP and there is no sand in it I will need to add Silica
but too much Blah Blah Blah 
roll pictures
so with a little help my poor beat up plants will get to spend some quality time
with me soon enough
as I will be out of room in a couple of weeks so I will hack at them to keep them in line
with space
the 4 vial Bs I have left in their final pot 3 gallons in Pro Mix HP
UBC Chemo cross being made into bushes very uniform plants I love F1s
so you get the idea I will turn things into bushes for now as room is short
they will stay in 6 six square pots for as long as they can and then 1 1/2 gallon pots
being pot bound at some point will help sexing
make seeds and share them
Dequilo
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Yep I love f1’s also, i prefer to make my own f2’s.
Don’t really like getting/buying f2’s.
Farther up the fgen ladder the weaker and more chances of breeder error.
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some of the F2s I have bought from breeders show no selection as to the parents they are all over the
place
I am going to make a load of F1s to give anybody and everybody of some just old solid
genetics (my view point)
and make myself some F2s and F3s but be very picky as I Know what I like to grow
I got three different mixes of beans and will plants lots looking for the
one or two real nice females and a male or two
make seeds and share them
Dequilo
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I hear alot of talk of people liking the way f1s grow. But thats where I get a little confused.
The f1s are not yet stable. I guess if you wanted to pick your own phenos to get what you want for your f2s and so on until you get what your looking for and stabilize it.
What comes after the the f line. Is it up to the breeder when they decide when and if its stable? Like when you buy seeds from a breeder and they don’t say its a Fx is it supposed to be stable?
If I got anything wrong please let me know.
I’m investigating money into being able to control my environment better. One big ticket item is a chiller for my resivor. It was way to high this past summer. I might have an opportunity to move my grow to the basement. If not soil in the summer. Hydro in the winter.
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F1s are an out crosses so you get what they call Hybrid Vigor the best of both parents
lots of vegetable seeds people plant are F1s they grow hardy, and lots of the time they have
resistance to common diseases
F2s are a cross between to relatives (brother x sister) so now you double up on the bad even if
the parents look great
they still have recessive traits in the back ground that you have breed to
F3s are where you weed out the weak, the mutated and unwanted because they are painfully
obvious in your F2 offspring
but your F3 offspring are more uniform and true to type if you did the work in selecting
uniform parents
my friend that is the quick and the very dirty explanation and remember I got out of college in 1977
and have not worked in the industry in decades
I will get you a link that does better
make seeds and share them
Dequilo
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Jackberry is very nice weed and an easy to grow, very pretty plant! if you have space in your garden in the next run I recommend choosing this. mine had a flowering time of roughly 8 weeks.
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