Welcome back buddy!! Beautiful buddage! It’s glowing!
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Damn dude I’m in the same boat. Caffeine dries out my TM joint and I end up with excruciating pain my my ear. Feels like someone is driving a flat head into my ear canal lol.
So the hunt is coming to an official end now that feedback is all in, and I think I have a few keepers. Overall, all of the males were excellent. Dragon Energy still reigns as my favorite, though its hybrids were much more difficult to grow compared to Lemon Thai and Afpak. Lemon Thai was one that brought surprisingly great bud structure and extreme heady potency to just about everything it touched.
I ran Sour D, Goji Razz, and Temple all x Lemon Thai. They were all very good, but the Goji Razz and Temple hybrids were by far the best. The Sour D x LT was good, but I was going for a sort of sour lemon heads flavor profile. Feedback on that cross from testers was great and they said they got great sour d notes, but I have honestly seen better sour expression through Headbanger repros and DE kush hybrids. It seemed to be missing that wet oily sour mouth coat that I love from the great DE hybrids.
The Goji Razz x LT was excellent. Its a great pairing because the Razz terps are delicate and would probably be trampled by a loud male. The LT seems to bring potency and size, and razz adds density and an amazing berry pine vanilla kush note. Oddly though, barely any smell in flower, but the keeper turned to pure razz vanilla pine og after time in the jar. This is a real good example of why you don’t select during flower too! This stuff gets better over time where most modern stuff turns to cardboard after 2 weeks.
Temple x LT was fucking awesome. Those two went together like peanut butter an jelly IMO. The Temple brought its terpene dominance in a great way, and the LT seemed to allow for a more varied expression of Temple’s granparents terps. The smells rangd from pure melon citrus cleaner which seemed to be williams wonder dominant, to some super pungent and potent SOG SSH plants with melon/pepper/eucalyptus/citrus notes. The room where these were running smelled like an industrial chemical facility, loud as loud can possibly be. I kept a cut that was SOG SSH leaning (I think based on descriptions of the SOG cut). Its potent, extremely tasty, and brings a nice third eye effect with mild psychedelia. I test this bud by bringing my dog out for walks in nice areas, and I really enjoy photographing nature and stuff. This stuff made me see shapes/patterns/lines/arrangements that I normally would have missed. Really reminded me of the high of the Nigerian Rafiki, but with a shorter finishing time and better yield. 10/10, go buy these packs lol.
Sour D was nice, but most of the lemon head terps seemed to degrade/volatilize during dry. One pheno smelled like motts applesauce during dry, but by the end it just smelled like… Weed? I’m going to keep one of these around to see if I can run it to water hash for rosin. That seems like the only sure-fire way to keep those super volatile terpenes. The high on all of the phenos is heady, sortof psychedelic and uplifting, and generally just really clean and balanced. If it retained terpenes this would be a serious winner IMO. All plants from this cross were extremely vigorous and got super dry overnight, so there is a chance that a proper run with more food will lead to keeper quality flower. Ill update everyone next time I run my selected cut from this pop.
Zang! x Afpak was overall excellent in every way. 70% of plants were keeper quality, 100% would make a home grower extremely happy. Some plants brought a heavy floral astringent note, others would have more mild astringent with a pine/onion type back end, and others were scent-less but still smoked excellent. The potency wasnt as high as the LT hybrids, but the smoke was fucking phenomenal on the astringent and pine phenos. My favorite had the astringent note translate to the smoke, and after that was done the smoke took on a sweet floral spicy flavor. Its not often that you find incredibly tasty smoke that is velvety smooth on the back on the throat. Another winner.
Mullum/Afpak threw out winners that were just as good as the Zang!, but fewer in number. Some phenos threw out home grown mexi brick looking flower which smoked awesome! But the resin production wasn’t up top par on most. But the few that did bring excellent resin along with those tropical terps… Man that was some excellent smoke. The best pheno was rotting organic matter/savory forward, with a citrus hazy background flavor. It translated to smoke really well and everyone loved it. Not a keeper because I have to make a living producing this stuff, but it was really fun showing people what close-to-wild hybrids look/smoke like.
Bananastan was a favorite of basically everyone, and I think I will be re hunting it at some point. This one brought tropical pear/floral/banana extract terpenes in flower, but lost that banana smell after dry. Oddly, I smelled ripe bananas when I was trimming them, then the smell went away again. I think I went nose blind here. The best pheno was super EB dominant with a pumped up yield. Smelled like tropical fruit/melon/pear/slight banana, tasted like a good sweet sour hybrid. I really liked my keeper but I just don’t have room for it right now. This stuff is excellent for daytime because the high is soaring and eye opening. Makes music sound great, guitar solos are fucking awesome with it lol. Now that I’m typing this, probably should have kept it lol. It only gets better with time in the jar too. Doh!
Dragon Hammer was another excellent one, but I dont think I fed it enough. I had one plant that smelled like pure floral pine maple syrup, but around week 6 it lost it and became muted. I had some serious leaf tissue necrosis going on, and that entire tent was underfed so I think this was a grower issue. The terps seemed to come back out when I improved my irrigation strategy, but by that point it was too late for a full recover. It re-vegged so Im going to try to run it again. It almost smelled like piney maple syrup jelly beans by the end of flower, translated to smoke too. I’m getting excited just thinking about a proper run with this cut.
Black Energy was objectively the best cross that was run during this hunt. If you don’t have any, go get some during the next mailing list drop. I found 5 potential keepers out of 36 seeds, terps ranging from sour mocha to pure sour pine with lots of fuel. My favorite cut doesnt smell like much, but looking at the heads and feeling the oil consistency… I figured she would be good. But I didn’t expect it to be THAT good lol. Favor for days, right until the end of a joint. Oily piney sour mouth coat that makes your eyes pop open out of surprise during the first hit. Upon exhale I get a tingly sour pine sensation that is just… Wow. Its extremely powerful stuff, sedates the body but stimulates the mind, kinda feels like floating lol. Easily some of the best weed that I have ever smoked, and we got a re-veg out of her on ONE lower bud lol. So so lucky. You will have to sift through some shitty plants with this one because… 88g13hp in the lines seems to make the smoke a bit wonky… But when the right balance is struck, wow.
Ethiopian Flame is excellent stuff. A bit less flavor transfer to the smoke, but it brings mental relaxation and curbs anxiety like nothing else I have tried. I would say this and the BE bring the best and most useful medicinal effects. Nothing body related for this one, it just clears the mind and allows me to relax. You know that feeling of crashing in bed after a long day of work, so exhausted? But it feels awesome because you are finally able to relax? That is this in plant form. I can see myself reaching for this regularly, but I want to re hunt it to find a plant that brings those effects with better taste. The bud smells amazing, tropical melon fruit banana mixed with sweet kushy fuel notes from the DE male.
Cant wait for this upcoming mailing list. My wallet is ready!
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Oh man! Advanced buffalo, you don’t know how much your detailed smoke reports/grow logs are appreciated. Lack of high descriptions seems to be the norm at seed companies. As someone with a couple chronic illnesses. The effects/high are most important to me. Ive found it frustrating when shopping for seeds. When most don’t include that info. Im a new smoker but damn is that not the reason we’re smoking, the high lol?
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Yeah, that’s exactly what it feels like. And for two or three weeks, too. But as long as I don’t drink any caffeine, it’s fine. I never liked, like, Coke or any caffeinated sodas, really, but I do love coffee, so that was kind of a bummer having to quit drinking that. I’ll live, though haha…
Thanks for those reports, I really appreciate them. How’d those AfPak crosses yield for you? I only ask because I chopped the lone Ancient OG/AfPak female I ended up with a few weeks ago and the yield was pitiful (23 grams dried haha!). The early smoke has been excellent and very tasty (straight-up “chunk of hash” flavor) and unlike you, I don’t make a living from growing haha, so yields aren’t too much of a concern, but still… It’s kind of hard to justify running lights for a 23-gram plant haha.
It’s not gonna stop me from running any more of the multiple AfPak crosses I have in the fridge, though; I’m sure she was just a weird outlier-type plant, but yeah, just wondering.
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We should all have a samplers pack of essential oils. Then we could have a basis for smell comparisons. I’m gonna go dig through my wife’s and smell that bergamot.
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Pulled the trigger with the GLG sale going on. Grabbed 2 packs of the Nigerian rafiki and 2 packs of the chocolate Blitz.
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Goji Raz x Lemon Thai. #2, she has been clawing for most of the grow, so I wasn’t floored when I found a couple of anthers on her at day 59. She’s a more lemony smelling phenotype.
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Copied-and-pasted from my grow log:
"Okay, here’s the Bandaid Haze #6 smoke report.
Looks:
For once, my “no-flash” pics actually turned out better than my “flash” pics haha…
Smell: Like musty, spicy plastic. That’s really the only way I can describe it. I asked my girl what she thought it smelled like and I swear to gawd she said,“Bergamot.” haha! I was like,“Oh, fuck youuuu, seriously, what does it smell like?” She stood by her assessment and I don’t know if she was fucking with me about the Sky Cuddler Kush or if she actually thinks that, but in any event, I’m not getting any sorta “tea” smells from it at all. It really does just smell like musty spicy plastic to me.
Taste: not really a highlight here. Mostly just tastes like “good weed.” I wish I could be more descriptive, but I can’t. Been smoking this one both in joints and a bong, but I’m not picking up on too much. It doesn’t really matter anyway, because the high is so good, but yeah, I don’t think I’ll be pressing this one any time soon haha.
Effect: This is really, really fun weed. It’s a full-on, like, “typical stoner” high, that stereotype that non-smokers (and probably even smokers) have when they think of people getting high. It’s not the most sociable buzz, but it is very, very enjoyable.
I feel it pretty much immediately after smoking it, lightly baked, I guess. But somewhere between 10 and 20 minutes after blazing, there’s for sure a short-lived “mini-rush” that lasts for five to ten minutes which might make some people uncomfortable. I’m prone to panic attacks and it doesn’t bother me, though. I really think it’s just this weed’s way of saying,“Hang on, you’re about to be baaaaaaaked!” more than anything else.
After the mini-rush, it really settles in nicely and becomes this just totally comfortable and enjoyable two hour high. Think “sitting on your couch and giggling”-type of high. Or more accurately, “melting into your couch.” At one point on Saturday night, I found myself just sprawled out on the couch feeling very laid back, really comfortable and on the fourth episode of The Dropout, that dramatization of the whole Elizabeth Holmes thing. I really had no interest in watching it, but my girl suggested it and I thoroughly enjoyed it! So much so that we blazed some more of the #6 on Sunday afternoon and finished the whole thing. Was it the weed? Or was it just an excellent tv show??? Haha.
Also… HUGE munchies, the worst I’ve gotten since that Headbanger run last year. I found myself with, like, a hunk of parmesan cheese and some habanero-and-lime Kettle Chips and a few chocolate-covered macadamia nuts that my girl’s parents brought back from Hawaii a little while back all on the same plate, eating and being like,“Heh heh…” at whatever’s on tv. Full-on Stoner Weed. Very fun.
Totally threw my diet out of wack this weekend, though haha. I was eight pounds from my target goal on Friday; I don’t even wanna weigh myself today, I’m certain I gained five pounds. I ate like two big-ass bowls of farfalle with spicy chicken sausage, broccoli and cherry tomatoes on Saturday night after blazing half a joint of the #6 and then finished it off with like four of those chocolate-covered macadamias and then busted out a bag of sour cream and onion Kettle Chips and various other things haha. Potato chips for dessert! Why not?
Anyway, yeah, this is great, great weed. Suuuuuper-fun. Maybe not exactly what I was looking for with the Bandaid Haze, but maybe it was? And I just didn’t know it? Haha. Anyway, I still have to really dig in to the other three BAH’s and do some proper research, I’m sure there’ll be something different there, but if there isn’t, I really won’t be mad at all. The #6 is full-on “blast from the past”-type shit, makes me feel like I’m 13 again.
Edit: I did find one fully-formed seed so far, but that just seems to happen sometimes. I don’t think anything hermed."
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I love chocolate covered macadamias, but it’s the rare terrible for you nut.
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Is it? Shit… Well, we’ve only got like half-a-box left (after destroying three-and-a-half boxes over the last couple weeks haha), so they’re almost gone. Didn’t know that about macadamias, though, that sucks.
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Tremendous smoke report. That is the ganja experience that many aim for. Slow alpha clap for really dialing that in. Well done.
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Haha… Thanks? I guess? “Slow clap,” I dunno…
Just kidding. Yeah, it’s real good weed. One thing I forgot to emphasize in that report is that, despite how unbelievably relaxing it is, it is not sleepy at all. Like, I wouldn’t smoke it before bed, I don’t think. Or I dunno, maybe I would, but it seems best for like mid-evening-type shit. Cooking, hanging out, whatever.
On an unrelated note, soaked five Outer Limits seeds Friday night, planted them Saturday morning, twelve hours later. Three of them are already above ground today, which is pretty impressive, I think. Barely 48 hours after planting them. None of the Purple Corinto seeds I planted at the same time are up yet, but that’s not worrisome. I wasn’t even planning on being all,”Are they up yet???” until Wednesday morning, so… Plenty of time left.
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Black Lime was the grandpa to black lime reserve and the dad to Lime 1. Lime 1 is hollywood PK (og type) x black lime
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Hermosa…well done ,sterling bud.
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Dope review. I find the Bandaid haze x BB to be pretty heavy too. It’s nice being outside and getting some stimulation but can just as easily conk out and listen to music. I’ve gone skating after smoking prob every pheno multiple times at this point and it’s almost not worth it unless you’re already warmed up it’s like you need to relearn everything haha. Definitely prefer like a non-narcotic indica hybrid for shit that requires coordination. My pucker punch from jinxproof (I’d call it like a 50/50 hybrid if someone put a gun to my head) is good for that kinda physical activity, easy to get in the groove.
Been about a week since I popped the BLR x NWHP. 9 for 12. One never cracked, one cracked but no tail, and then one just didn’t survive. Can’t wait to get some smells off these things.
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Oh, sweet! I almost planted some of those this round, stared at that particular seed tube for a good thirty seconds before I continued rummaging through my collection, but I went with Bodhi’s Dread Bread instead. Totally different than that BLR/WHP haha, but whatever.
I wouldn’t say the BAH is “heavy,” exactly, as much as it’s just suuuuper-relaxing. I mean, I can get up off the couch to go to the kitchen to grab more snacks haha! I’ve smoked some weed where I can’t even do that! Haven’t gone skating after smoking it yet haha, but I could for sure see it not really being conducive to busting out kickflip varials and shit. Might be kinda fun to just carve up a pool, 70’s style, after smoking a joint of it, though.
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True, heavy might give the wrong impression but I guess we are smokin on different stuff after all so who really knows. Also I can barely do transition on a good day I would die trying after smoking the BH x BB haha.
Dread bread should be fun. I don’t know when I’m gonna get around to that one but I’m definitely lookin forward to running some more super natural selections. Speaking of which, whoever managed to snag some of Ethiopian banana x NWHP I feel like has the winning combo I think that’s the only true f1 from that to pollination.
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Yeah, I missed that “x BB” part in your earlier post. I’ve read that that Beastie Boy male really adds some “heaviness” to whatever it’s crossed with. Mighta been right here on this thread, actually, think advancedbuffalo or somebody mentioned that.
Which is why I haven’t fucked with those BB crosses at all haha. Lazy’s fine; “heavy” is unacceptable haha.
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I am curious about both the NWHP & DE crosses . I’ve been picking up the A5T , LT & Afpak crosses . As a rookie I’m hesitant about the NWHP as they’ve been described as “ not your typical Dutch hashplant , these are trees “ . Doesn’t exactly sound like beginer indoor tent growing fare . The DE crosses have been described by @ Advanced Buffalo as the most difficult to grow of Doc’s gear .
Is this because of N sensitivity & / or plants structure / growth characteristics ? What ticks / tips would y’all have for these ? Also if you think I’d be better off sticking to the other crosses please state so . FWIW I plan on traditional hempy buckets with either Jacks 321 or GH Maxi series . Have great tapwater both from TDS ( 35-40 ppm ) & ph wise . Custom Hydro has both the Hafia Cal Prime & a solution grade Gypsum that might be worthwhile if I find the need for additional Ca without a bunch of N . Some have used CaCl2 & EDTA , both bring additional potential for problems . Again I ask for guidance .
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