Doc D cannabis seeds

Have you seen Bodhi’s pics of that Watermelon Hashplant? They definitely don’t look like your typical Dutch, squatty, non-stretchy “Indica” plant. Pretty sure those seeds were collected in India, so if you research those sorta “highland” hashplants, you might get an idea of the growth characteristics of the WHP, if you can’t find the pics. They’ve been posted somewhere on OG, though, think it was in the Bodhi thread. Might be in this thread, too.

I say plant whatever interests you. I don’t know anything about hydro/salts/Jacks 321, but I mean, I’m sure you’ll be fine no matter what. Shit gets stretchy, tie them down haha. I didn’t find the C. Gold x DE cross to be difficult to grow. One of the plants definitely got fucking huge, but it didn’t outgrow the tent or anything. And the smoke from that plant has been some of my favorite smoke in the last ten years. Worth the effort.

And when I say “effort,” I mean there were a couple nights over the course of eleven weeks where I was like,”Shit…. I guess I should stake and tie that plant a little bit…” haha. They’ve all been pretty easy so far.

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So I asked doc about what to expect from the whp before I grabbed the pcb cross, and he gave me the following response:

“the nepali watermelon hashplant line is a point of origin mountain sativa that grows big plants with flowers that are composed of many small foxtails… taking a line so far removed and mixing it with modern worked genetics will combine in very unpredictable ways. This can be both an amazing source for unique plants but also create headaches for those not understanding the wildcard nature of these types of crosses.”

Fingers crossed, and good luck!

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That just reinforces my feelings about the NWHP crosses . I honestly don’t feel that I’ve got the experince to tackle them yet . @minitiger I read your grow diary on the CG x DE & BAH . Gave me the courage to grab the A5T crosses . 8 wk veg & 5ft tall plants told me it wasn’t anything to be scared off . Hell we all gotta learn sometime .
Soiless & indoors because of location ( Florida ) . Not to mention we’ve every kind of bug / ag pests you can dream of . It’s so bad if you want to eat you have to net , spray etc all the outdoor garden . Have grow room isolated with a sterile room in between it & rest of house . I bring nothing from outdoors in & change / shower before entry .

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Yeah I’m gonna actually smoke my most bandaid haze dominant (#1 and best high. Scrappy nugs that smell like basement must) for my first doob today and then I’ll do the same for the beastie boy pheno (#13. Beautiful nugs, smells like someone tried to cover the smell of their musty basement with a floral scent) tomorrow and try to get my thoughts straight on it. I guess what I mean by heavy though is that the effect comes on hard and easily gives way to physical lethargy while your mind races haha

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It sucks that I cant have two first smokes of the day it would be so much easier to compare phenos

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Yeah, I for sure was like,”Ohhhh, ummmmm, I dunnoooooo,” when I was considering planting the BLR/WHP seeds the other day. But that was mostly because I was like,”Do I really wanna have to be extra-vigilant about herms this round?” That’s the main thing I was worried about. Stretchiness, height concerns, shit like that is easily manageable. But I know that meangene’s gear is kinda bred with the outdoors in mind; my Sky Cuddler from last round threw some male flowers. That, coupled with the fact that that WHP male of Doc’s doesn’t sound like it’s been exactly tested yet, made me apprehensive.

But I mean that whole,”I’m not ‘experienced’ enough to grow these yet.” Fuck that. You’ll do fine. I don’t know what the fuck I’m doing, every grow is an adventure haha. For real, I planted some seeds a few days ago and was like,”Maybe they won’t sprout. Maybe I don’t know what I’m doing. Maybe I’ve just gotten lucky every time I’ve ever grown weed before. Am I sowing these seeds properly?” I never really feel confident until the day I’m chopping the plants haha. What’s even dumber is that instead of planting that Black Lime Reserve cross, I planted some of Doc’s Purple Corinto Budder/A5Thai seeds. Because those’ll be so much more easy and manageable to grow :joy::joy::joy:

My very first grow, I grew some of Bodhi’s Goldstar f4’s (along with some other stuff), Malawi cross, could’ve maybe gotten out of hand, considering those Malawi genetics and all. But that’s what I was interested in, so that’s what I planted. And it turned out great! You can do it, dude. It’s a weed, right? Or something like that? Haha.

That sucks haha. I grew up there, can’t stand that place. Left in ‘97, only been back three times since. Still, though, I’m sure you’ll pull off whatever you decide to plant.

Yeah, I think that must be the influence of that Beastie Boy male. The BAH #6 definitely has a sorta “rushiness” early on, but it’s more like how sitting in a plane during takeoff is. Once you reach cruising altitude, it’s all golden.

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My very first grow, I grew some of Bodhi’s Goldstar f4’s (along with some other stuff), Malawi cross, could’ve maybe gotten out of hand, considering those Malawi genetics and all.

How as your Goldstar F4 grow and experience? I have some Goldstar x Snow Lotus.

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@boatbum325
This, 100%
They’re seeds, they want to become plants and make flowers. Even if you plant half and fuckem up, you’ll learn from it and have some seed still to plant.

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So good. That was really awesome weed. I lost one in a drying mishap, but the one that was harvested earlier smoked so good. Smelled like a Peppermint Patty or something, all “cool minty chocolate breath” haha and a really, really nice high, too. I wish Bodhi’d revisit some of those old lines.

Here’s the grow report, if you’re interested: https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/bodhi-apollo-11f4-and-other-strains.78517/

Just bear in mind that 1. It was my first grow ever and 2. I was doing a ton of blow back then haha.

F2’s? From elgalloblanco a while back? I have some of those, too, one of the only seed runs I’ve signed up for here. I seriously considered planting some of those this round, too, but I wanna practice my cloning skills and be relatively comfortable with cloning before I pop those seeds. I don’t want to lose those genetics.

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Thanks for sharing that grow journal. You did really well for a novice back in 2016. Your GoldStar’s had praying leaves on your first grow. Despite the booger sugar, aka Colombian marching powder :sunglasses:, you dialed those plants in. It’s amazing how elusive chocolate terpenes are, yet they just pop up when you least expect it. Crazy.

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I mean the DE hybrids arent hard to run at a small scale, but for me they are difficult because I have some low-ass ceilings and most phenos stretch more than hazes. The DE’s string of pearl structure can also be problematic for trimming. Id say they are super easy to grow for small yields and good quality, very hard to grow for higher yields while keeping quality consistent. Cookie crosses, in comparison, are an absolute cake walk. These DE hybrids need simulated drought stress via high EC and large drydowns to cause good terpene development. Run them too wet and low EC and you will end up completely missing terp development. They like trauma cycles lmao. Heavy feeds during the day, stressful drydowns at night.

I run Jacks at my own custom ratios along with CaCl2 to get Ca up to the 160ppm range. I avoid EDTA because when mixed with Calnit, precipitates form. Gypsum isnt friendly to drip lines, lots of clogs. I’m pushing 80ppm chloride with no issue.

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Here’s the bandaid haze x beastie boy #1. Never grown weed this ugly and I’ve never had the ugliest plant ever turn into the most potent but that was the case with this pheno haha. Took this one 12 to 13 weeks. This one comes on hard like I said before but I wanna be clear cause I was being confusing yesterday, this one is not “heavy”. It does get your head buzzing pretty hard while you’re smoking but doesn’t give way to lethargy like some of the other phenos. My legs do feel like jelly when I skate after smoking this though haha. One thing that’s cool about this one is how ripped you continue to get at the end of the joint, where some stuff kinda levels off after the first half.
After an hour or so I smoked my number 20 (the numbering scheme had to do with #1 being the most narrow and #23 being the broadest leaves at week 2 after sprout to pretty arbitrary). The #20 does have really long fan leaves but is actually pretty narrow, especially the leaflets, not like the relatively broad leaves than my bestie boy leaning #13. Anyway while smoking the #20 I definitely got the heavy feeling, it’s kind of a type of head rush almost… had to put the joint down so I could finish watering plants and doing dishes. I love both of these phenos but that number 1 is so fucking cool. Gonna smoke the #13 after work today

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will be sending you a PM Thanks –

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:joy::joy::joy::joy: That’s Doc’s list from two years ago, not vernal’s. He was just posting the monthly email.

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So you’ve found running them like you do the A5T / equatorials ie 20% dryback , no runoff / flushing / overwatering , high ppfd ( 1,400 u/mol ) , 85 degrees lights on , 78 lights off , rh 65 - 68 % is the ticket . I’ll try to emulate w/ 5gal hempys & every other day feed . Just have to keep an eye on media EC / PH . Since I’m hand watering I can make Gypsum work , but good to know CaCl2 can be done . Thanks you’ve given me something to shoot for . Yes 2 small tents so I’m a bushleaguer . FWIW DE crosses that’ve caught my eye are the Viet Black , A5Hz , Mull/Oax , Malawi & Sour D .

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I think if you are in 5 gallon pots, you may need once a day waterings. I avoid runoff when building EC in media to keep internodal spacing tight, but will hit runoff after stretch is finished for bulking phase. The A5/Thai hybrids, especially equatorial hybrids, will go through a ton of water if you let them. I like RH in the 63% average range to pull more water out of the media, allows EC to build faster.

You definitely dont want them getting near wilt during bulking phase IMO. Its fine a few times to limit stretch, but there is definitely such thing as too dry… Even for these plants.

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9x Double Dosidos x A5 Haze/ Thai bx

2 mutants in there

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Again, copied-and-pasted from my grow log:

" Alright, I think I have enough of a handle on the Colombian Gold x Dragon Energy #1 to write the report.

Looks:

I’m not even sure those pics are doing this one justice. These flowers are really frosty.

Smell: I’m picking up on burnt rubber/hot asphalt, with just the ever-so-slightest bit of “sourness” as well. Nothing in the realm of Sour Diesel-type sourness, though. Hash, too, maybe. It smells good, but it’s not like,“OMG, what is that??? I have to smoke some right now!”

Taste: mostly just hash, with the slightest bit of sourness on the way, way back-end. I’ve blazed this one before bed a few times, couple bong rips, then brushed my teeth, showered, dried off, moisturized… Twenty or thirty minutes later, after I’m done with the routine and I’m laying in bed, I’ll get this sorta “sour/fake lemon” flavor in my mouth. Which, I dunno, that’s pretty cool I think, especially since I brushed my teeth AFTER blazing her. But overall, the flavor is mostly just hash. Not even “amazing hash flavors,” though. The Ancient OG x AfPak (which I’ll write the review for after this) tastes so much more “hashy” that it kind of makes the C. Gold/DE #1 plant relatively lackluster. It’s like a little bit of hash, a little bit of sour… Emphasis on the word “little.”

So yeah, @ClassicGenetix, there’s definitely some sour flavors to be found in the DE crosses, although I suspect that other plants would produce significantly more sour notes than this plant did.

Effect: It’s okay. It’s strong, for sure, but a weird kind of strong. Have y’all ever heard that saying in Alcoholics Anonymous, that,“One drink’s too many and a thousand ain’t enough,” thing? The #1 plant is the opposite of that. One bong rip isn’t enough and two is too many haha. But the high is just kind of whatever. I’ve been asking myself over the course of the last couple days,“Is it just because that Bandaid Haze #6 and the C. Gold/DE #2 plant are soooooo good that you can’t accurately judge this weed? If this is the only weed you had access to, would you be stoked about it?” I’m not sure I would.

The high is just kind of,“Blahhhhhh…” Like I said, it’s strong, but there’s nothing that really makes it special or interesting at all. It’s not thought-provoking, it doesn’t make things sillier (in fact, it kind of makes everything sorta dull), it doesn’t make me more hungry or less hungry, it doesn’t even really make me feel either more energetic or more tired. It’s just kinda “there.” Like,“Yes, I’ve smoked some weed, I know that because I’m baked,” but there aren’t any standout aspects to it at all.

I really do keep thinking,“Are you being totally honest with yourself? Are you positive that it’s not just the other plants that you love so much affecting your ability to properly judge this specific plant?” I think I am. It’s good weed, I guess, probably a lot of people would dig it, but this one, to me, is just kind of,“Eh…”

I do think that it’d be good for making hash with, just because of how frosty it is. So I’m probably gonna do that at some point. Eventually. One day… haha.

Anyway, yeah, they can’t all be winners haha. I’ve actually given some of this to some friends of mine, along with samples of the Sky Cuddler Kush and the Soar and everything else, just because I always like to hear everybody’s opinion. And not a one of them so far has mentioned the C. Gold x DE #1 nugs. I didn’t even realize that until last night. They’ve for sure been texting me, like,“OMG, that SCK is sooooo fucking good!” or,“Holy shit, that Soar is tasty!” But nobody’s told me how much they love the #1plant haha. And it hasn’t even occurred to me to ask them, which I think is even more telling. I’ll ask them today, though, kinda curious to see what they think of it.

Edit: I just realized that I was like,”Yay! I blazed the C. Gold x DE #1 for the last two days and I wrote the report! Now I can get back to blazing the weed I really like!” haha! I guess I probably could’ve just written that at the very beginning and saved a lot of time and space haha…"

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And another:

"And here’s the Ancient OG x AfPak report:

Looks:

Sorry about those shitty-ass pics, they were the best I could find out of the, like, 20 that I took.

Smell: it’s kinda “green,” kinda vegetal, very earthy and also a little bit of lime, too, which has been surprising to me. The “earthy” aspect is pretty unique, too, and not the usual earthiness that I think my soil mix always imparts. This is more of a “limestone”-type thing, reminds me of the sinkholes I used to play in when I was a kid growing up in Florida haha. These nugs have only been in jars for like three weeks, so maybe that sorta “green-ness” will dissipate as we go on. It doesn’t smell bad, though, at all. Smells real good, actually.

Flavor: like I broke off a huge chunk of hash and chewed on it for twenty minutes. And I mean that in a good way haha. It’s soooooo fucking hashy, like even more hashy than some actual hash I’ve smoked. I’ve been doing my best to differentiate, like,“But is it blonde hash or black?” I haven’t come to a conclusion yet, but it does taste really, really good. I mean, as long as you think hash tastes really good haha.

Effect: So the first time I blazed this one, I immediately thought of Bodhi’s Clusterfunk. That’s what this one reminds me of, but a Clusterfunk on steroids. It is such a classic “hybrid” up-then-down thing, but times 100. The first hour might very well be the most “cerebral” high I’ve ever experienced. My mind just will not quit racing. Since we’ve been talking about jobs and interviews and trying to get jobs and stuff on this log lately: if I’ve gone out on an interview earlier that day and then smoke this before bed, I porrrrrre over every single detail, anything I said that might’ve made me look bad and un-hireable, wondering,“Maybe you shouldn’t have said that. You idiot! You idiot!” haha.

Picture somebody slapping themselves in the face and yelling,“Quit thinking! Quit thinking!” It really is like that, although I have not (yet) actually slapped myself in the face haha. But yeah, man, gawddamn, this one really gets the mind racing.

Having said that, I don’t actually feel any sort of negativity during that first “cerebral” hour. I think a lot, but it’s not necessarily any sort of “bad thoughts.” It’s more just like,“Ahhhh, haha, you probably shouldn’t have said that during that interview today. Oh well, guess I won’t be getting that job…”

Anyway, yeah, so that’s the first hour haha. But I can almost set my clock to this high. Like I said, that first hour, there’s a lot of stuff going on in my head. But almost to the minute, the second hour is very quiet. I’ll be laying in bed, mind racing, and then everything just shuts off. To the point where I’ll have been laying in bed for a few minutes after that first “Hour of Nonstop Thinking” and then realize,“Oh, wow, I haven’t thought of anything at all for five minutes…” And then, BAM! I’m out. Sleep like a baby for a good seven hours and wake up all refreshed and shit.

So yeah, I dunno about this one haha. I honestly haven’t blazed it at any other time than before I get ready for bed. And I don’t think I will, either, just because every time I’ve smoked it, it really is like,“I’m thinking, I’m thinking, I’m thinking, I can’t stop thinking!” and then 66 minutes into it, I go,“I’m not thinking at all,” and that’s the last thought I have until I wake up in the morning. Pretty interesting weed, for sure. Not something that I wanna blaze in the morning or afternoon, though haha.

Growing notes on this one are that I only vegged her for 39 days before flipping and I think the yields are reflective of that. I got 23 grams from this plant. TWENTY. THREE haha. I didn’t top her, so that probably had something to do with the gawd-awful yields, as well. I’m not unwilling to run her again, though, at all. She’s good weed, just not necessarily something I wanna be smoking all the time. I’m gonna blaze some tonight before bed, though, just because she tastes so fucking good."

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Also all of these were FIMed. Some bushed/branched out more than others.
I got lucky as I planted 2 of each. I up potted half and the half I up potted all turned out to be female. The others were all males. Now I’m off to play the lottery. Lol

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