Federal legalization in the USA, what does the future hold for cannabis?

That part of the posted article doesn’t quite make sense… I’m thinking maybe it applies to people who were charged with possession but were never convicted or took a continuance (and then didn’t get in trouble again and the charges were later dismissed)?

I did once have an application to fill out that asked if I had ever been accused, I didn’t end up filling it out. I filled out ones that asked if I had ever been convicted.

Those are some wise words my friend.
I wish more folks would see things the way you do.
I am of the opinion that you see things very clearly.

Too many people taking the first deal being offered.

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I looked at the actual proclamation, it sounds like the part about not having been convicted applies to legal residents of the US who committed the acts (use, simple possession, or attempted simple possession) prior to the date of the proclamation, who are then charged/convicted after the date of the proclamation?

Note that the DOJ uses slightly different language, they say you have to have been charged or convicted of one of the listed offenses to be eligible for a certificate.

They probably don’t want a bazillion people writing in asking for a pardon for a federal crime they were never even charged with… awkward!

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It would seem "No one was even freed from prison "

The number of people impacted by Friday’s proclamation is likely smaller than after last year’s, because it is an expansion of the previous action meant to pardon people who might have been missed the first time around,

No one was freed from prison under last year’s action, but the pardons were meant to help thousands overcome obstacles to renting a home or finding a job. Similarly, no federal prisoners are eligible for release as a result of Friday’s action.

If they were really serious about reform and not how thing appear (optics) they would not be doing things like blocking pharmacies in georga for dispencing low THC cannabis oil.
In my opinion this is not about the people at all, it is about an approval rating.
The whole thing is really just a PR move and shows the Fed as 2 faced.

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Interesting, “thrive,” with the lower case letter “t,” is part of Kaiser Permanente of CA’s logo(?)/tag line(?)/corporate identity(?)/long term ad campaign(?)/maybe other Kaiser stuff. Probably used by other Kaiser locations.

Local company(pa) actually as far as I can tell. That 2018 farm bill did some good(thca “hemp”) along with the bad(all that delta 8 kinda crap)

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I think someone’s raised this before, but I thought of it again when I bought an $18.50 eighth at a dispo the other day (it was on sale, but I think there were some discounted $15 eighths too)… once prices get really low how many people are going to care much about what the laws look like, and whether homegrowing is still allowed? Those prices are without federal legalization, just a lot of competition in-state, I wonder how low they’d go with federal?

we are at $5/oz for flower and $1/g for bho so im not really sure how much lower it could go with federal lol.

… if you go into a store here and wait in line; people will flock in, go straight up to the counter and check the prices on the cheap shit, then get on their phone and start texting everyone… so ya its clear who is buying that crap: resellers and the homeless.

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I am always complaining about the loss of home growing.
The war on home growing is real!
I said in the past that folks will not have any compassion for those who lost their right to home growing.
They will say “why do you need to grow it you can buy it on every street corner corner.”

Only the smart people will care if home growing is not allowed.
You can keep your $15 eighth trash.
I am not sure why most people are ok smokin trash. :nauseated_face:
I personally will not usually smoke weed from a store.
Why?
Well, they add terps that hurts my lungs.
The weed is usually 1 year or better old and probably remediated.
The store weed may or may not be grown with PGR’s or pesticide.
Most of the weed has been tumbled to trim it and lost most of its trichomes.
They can keep their year old pesticide and PGR ridden trichomes less pot :rofl:

The price will go really low to eliminate the competition.
But
Have you thought about how the world works?
You know, you low ball everyone until they go bankrupt and you are the only game in town.
You know kinda like all of big cannabis companies are consolidating right now.
Once the big companies have a stranglehold on the industry and they are well on their way right now…they will then be able to choose any price they wish.
The prices will not stay low forever.

If you think in terms of grocery stores you will get the idea.
Around here all of the small grocery stores were in competition with each other, now they are gone and all we have is Meijer and walmart ect.

Think about it…
These companies are all about the money and nothing more.
Stores around here are working together tto keep prices up and steady.
Now that a lot of the competition is fading away.
These companies snitch on each other on a regular basis too.

If we lose the right to home growing everyone will be smoking Monsanto weed.
If you think that will a good thing?
You better think again…

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is high quality cannabis even scalable at the level of a phillip morris, etc? even with all the new tech/automation, the good stuff has been $10/g (280ish oz’s) for my entire life in terms of indoor, there were brief periods where the good stuff dipped down to 200 or something.

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I think that “craft” cannabis…that is cannabis grown in small amounts by regional small growers wirh be the thing…as in good quality weed atca descent price orgabic with no pesticides etc…

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I agree we have 2 types of smokers.
Those that want the cheapest weed around.
Then we have those that want top shelf no matter the cost.

I hope craft cannabis starts to take over the legal market.

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I think it will…myself im gatering up a couple of commwrcial growers . I know one that sells a couple of strains one idica and the other a sativa…he owns a dispo with mostly topshelf…and his own strains. Id like to open a dispo that sells only organic topshelf…at a descent price along with “craft” weed that could be either seasonal or holiday types…i have secveral ideas about the strains i woyld concentrate on for certain times of the year and schedual grows/curing to coinside with…now to find an invester…

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The sooner the bottom drops out of the cannabis market, the better.

Weed literally grows on trees. It’s value relies on prohibition, and novelty where prohibition has been amended.

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I think some of the things you’re mentioning are very much state-dependent right now… like adding terps? Could be wrong but I don’t think that’s allowed in MA, or VT. They also have pretty strict rules about what can be applied, and require testing. I didn’t check the date on the eighth I picked up, given that it was on sale I imagine you’re right that it’s fairly old? I’ll check on that.

As for kiffing the buds before they’re sold… pretty sure they were doing that when it , was $50 and eighth (truth be told I’ve probably bought less than 10 eighths over the last five years, never been all that impressed with dispo flower, though some places have been better than others).

Fair point, I can only report on what I have seen done here in michigan.
From what I know they are supposed to screen for PGR’s.
I don’t think they do???
I did a bunch of experiments with stuff like bushmaster so I know what to look for and they are using something like this product is some of the grows.
If you have ever seen bushmaster buds then you know what I am talking about.

As far as them adding terps and it being legal…
I question this all of the time, that shit is nasty and you don’t know what is in it.
At least it does not say anywhere on the package.

I consider this weed adulterated and it should be illegal everywhere.
Now are they allowed to use terps here legally, this I do not know.
Are they even cannabis derived terpenes?
Most I have seen are not.

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This is very true.

I envision a form of legalization where weed has very little monetary value.
A plant in every yard!
If you put a plant in every yard this will help with carbon emissions and heal the earth.
If you put a plant in every yard you can hand a bushel of top shelf buds over the fence and tell your neighbor he has to trim it himself. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

I could go on and on…

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Harvested: 2021-10-15
Tested: 2022-01-10
THC: 33%

i see A LOT of that. they dont dare try to sell them for more than $80/oz though, most like that are $40 or lower. people flock in to buy them though. theres one budtender here that always replies “no, the dry weed is better because it burns good” whenever someone from out of state shows up and asks if the have anything “fresh”. we dont do “fresh” in the stores here, we do warehoused under bright flourescents in a grove bag not properly sealed for 2 years :joy:

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