Feminized Seeds , Whats Your thoughts!?

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#198

well, your cali SD has skunk it in… it would be like a BX of sorts to it’s Mass SupSk ancestor… In the f1 u wouldnt see too much, BUT in the f2, you’;d see some cool variation… sow enough of the f2, pheno hunt through them for a keepr mother that expresses what u like, and blow yur place out with her clones… If u decide to keep working the line, or think u may wnat to eventually, then hold a clone of yur sk male indefinitely, bc you’ll eventually need him for the BX… small cup in the corner, when gets too tall (2-3 months later) cut another cloen from him trash the big one, keep the new tiny clone, repeat…

U got The Black? like, the real The Black?? That’s our strian. We invented that… what pheno or phenos do u got? @Morgwar

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The Black: Strain History and Info
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#200

heres the new rub… been out of growing for a minute or two… watch my brother try it … watch him buy tents, led lights. etc…
and I let him. I watched, through a hand in when he fucks up or needs some knowledge he hasn’t gleaned yet. he buys fem seeds… easier for him right??? autos too even easier… ordered the GG#4 from ? fems… 5 seeds… one stand out in the trics one standout in the bush department… took em at 57… re-vegging all of em .2 because well i cut em to the quick tossed em in the trash and they sprouted new growth anyway so trimmed the roots dropped back in the bubbler. the other one i kept just because she started late in life willing to give her another chance.

#201

Right on we gotta o what we can, with what we have. One thing I can’t figure is the auto’s grown inside. Autos need a lot of light to produce any quantity? With a 12/12 bloom cycle for the regs and fems I can’t see using the space for autos. Outdoors I can see auto’s for a quick 2 ounces maybe, but indoors you would need to be running a veg cycle light timing to get anything but a lollypop sized single cola? I figure that to be a waste of money space and time, but who knows… I’ve only grown autos outdoors an then only twice and at that, I figure they are still a waste of time and space, except for a plant and forget method. I know they aren’t for me, auto’s that is. Fem seeds are almost essential now if you like the new strains, like up here there ain’t no GG#4 seeds that are regs, just like many other breeder luck ‘elites’. Not many seed breeders take the time to go further than f2’s like why bother in this fast paced pollen chucking world of cannabis. Grow a nice plant and clone, reverse, pollenate and market, make a quick buck then fade into the past. I get what the vets say concerning the gene pool…everyone will be buying Monsanto seeds within 10 years. Regs for this noob till the end, Cheers man, do what suits you best. I’ll NEVER pay 20 bucks for a seed, especially a multi multi hybrid.

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#202

i remember when c99 first came out from brothers grimm… 150 bux 10 beans…

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#203

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#204

Feminized seed is commercialized bagseed!

It’s a disservice to the preservation of Cannabis genetics. Leaving genetics in control of powerhouses will only lead them to being lost when or if the law reverts. We need many others to be propagating more and more seed so we never lose it.

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#205

I disagree ,:point_up: i have grown many fem and regular beans ( and auto’s indoors) and i have had a keeper from a freebie : fem blueberry ghost og but my present keeper is a reg seed …
I would grow fem anything if i like the strain/cross, plus some people don’t have room to root out the males etc… There is a place for both… and auto’s can give massive yields these days ( and potent too.!)
So each to their own. Nothing wrong with running them all.
Happy growing/smoking ,
Gaz

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#206

Fems are better for people with limited grow space. Plant 4 seeds in a 4x4 tent it’s better to know 100% are going to be female. If you have the luck I’ve got youd plant 4 regs and end up with 4 males ffs. It takes around 4 to 5 weeks for them to show sex so that would be a full month lost, power bills for nothing and unessesery work. I’ll always grow a couple of feminised seeds to ensure I’ve at least produced something :+1:

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#207

Im with you brother. My cousin grew feminized seeds one time, two weeks from harvest, BAM! Herpes. He hasn’t grown a feminized plant since.

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#208

Holy shit, you can get herpes from feminized seed? :scream:

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#209

One bad experience does NOT provide exclusive proof that fem seeds are commercialised bagseed - they’re IS a big market for fems and always will be now…!
Im NOT claiming fem are better but there are good and bad regs too , it’s not as simple as generalising ALL fem as commercial bagseed,!
commercial ; definitely .! , but so are regs bred for commercial reasons…
Try a strain you have grown regs of in fem version and see for yourself .?
I have been growing fems and regs for a bit and iv only had an auto hermi on me… most fems don’t herm ( ime)…
Happy growing/smoking ,
Gaz

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#210

I agree there are good and bad feminized seeds. A good breeder will eliminate the intersex tendencies long before releasing them. A bad breeder may circulate a cut as “elite” that was accidentally pollinated (bag seed).

There is a little merit to the idea that eliminating males from the gene pool is a limitation. This is the same as eliminating any off types and can be countered with additional numbers. All line breeding will narrow the gene pool.

That being said, I gave away most of my feminized seeds. Not really because I think they are inferior, but because another user here needed them.

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#211

I am not debating growing feminized seed purely for smoking. That would be the preferred method if you are just needing medicine.

I am talking about breeding and preserving genetics.

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#212

From an evolutionary perspective, especially in the case of wild organisms, you are absolutely right. Dioecious species are irrefutably more resilient than Monoecious in many cases, orchids are a great example.

Cannabis is more controlled by human decisions than natural factors tho, imho.

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#213

I think fems have their place, in my case with micro growing I’ve generally create a mum out of a nice plant and usually clone.

That being said things go wrong and I’ve lost a few mums over the last couple of years and if I was to reverse a cut and then make some fems ide have some backups.

Also taking cuts, waiting for them to root and then plant, wait to recover and start growing takes time. When ready for the next lot of plants, fem seeds planted and grown would be quicker than cuts.

Just my thoughts.

Cheers Johnny

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#214

I’ve bought a few feminized seeds, never had issue. I do think auto-flowering loses something however when they play with those genetics. Personally, i’m a cloner so feminized seeds allow me to take clones before i kick them to bud :smiley:

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#215

Only thing autoflowers really lose is an ability to continuously veg to a good size and an ability to bounce back from stress issues i.e.: transplanting, watering, general ph issues…

Otherwise fem auto is a good run to be in

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#216

I found auto to be too spread out and too thin buds, just my opinion though, I did like them for awhile. This is a photo of a pinapple express auto that didn’t root right. The only one of 5 to survive. Auto also can’t be reverted or cloned.

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#217

Once I’ve finished growing out the seeds Ive been gifted I will be growing feminized photoperiod only. My male to female ratio from regs has been 25% female to 75% male. Maybe I’m just unlucky. I dunno if its just me but I’ve found that autos loose the strong smell once harvested compared to my photo grows.

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