Which of these is the most potent? As in Psychedelic

Which of thes is the most potent, Psychedelic, but also has a heavy physical high, and a heavy comedown?

Killer A5 Haze
Malawi Gold
Golden Tiger
Top Dawg Black Haze BX
Bandaid Haze #7 x A5/Mirakel Thai
Bandaid Haze #22 x A5/Mirakel Thai
Khalfia Genetics Chellakutti
Real Deal Durban Poison-No Crosses
Real Seed Company Lao
Blackbird Preservations Vietnamese Black
Cubano Haze-Puday Holiday x Top Dawg
Tom Hill Haze
Authentic Genetics O Haze.

Any other recommendations also welcome.

Looking for PARANOIA INDUCING, long lasting heavy hitting physically, and mentally.

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Golden tiger.

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Some Malawi, some THH (i won’t say “heavy” though), Viet Black crosses
Some pure equatorial sativas crosses are more likely to be psychedelic and paranoia inducing… but only a few have the heavy comedown
You search for something like NL#5Haze ?
Take a look at the A5 hybrids at Aceseeds.org

From your list, i will say:
Killer A5 Haze
BBP Vietnamese Black
Golden Tiger
Ace Malawi

Others (original haze, chellakutti, Lao. Durban) NO

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There was some Nanan Bouclou testers on the site a few months back and that one’s supposed to be a trip weed

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Good Vietnamese black or original haze would be my choice , I grew killer a5 and it was very strong but more narcotic than trippy , great herb but not what your looking for this time .
Billy goats VB many years ago and it was lethal electric zippy heart pounding high that gave you red eyes then put you to bed about 3 hours after you had a few buckets .

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Id go ace malawi or killer a5 haze. Why dont you ask Dubi at ace hes a great dude, and im positive he would love to help you make your decision. Personally old c99 waa a good choice for speedy racing thoughts lol. They got there own page at ic, and hes always hanging out over there. Cool guy ive talked with him a million times. Ace wont cost a tenth of top dawg ones. Good luck

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Goin hard, aye bro?
:rofl:

The only slightly-constructive thing that I can add is…every body is different.
I’m betting that you’ll get wildly varying reports.

May I ask why?
:thinking:

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Out of everything on your list , only 3 possibles . The right Original Haze pheno is one . However you aint gonna find it w/o popping a metric fuckton . If going that route either hunt THH or find the 90 Goli version of Seedman’s O’Haze . Golden Tiger is the other . Stick w/ older version not newer Thai-dom . One that aint on yer list is JJ’s Nigerian Haze & IMHO Doc D’s Nigerian Rafiki is also a zooty one .

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Is there “couchlocked” pheno in true pure Haze/Original Haze ?
Personnaly, i’ve never found one, neither i heard someone found one… :thinking:
Other Afghanica x Haze sometime yes

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Malawi… Anyone as input :thinking:

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Didn’t Tom Hill optimistically say 5%? Might as well start from scratch.

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Some satisfaction in that fer sure . All that assumes that one has the grow space , funds & most important time to see it through . Not viable for this geezer ( 75 ) + live in an unfriendly place . Hence my other suggestions ala quick n dirty for us challenged folks .

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Locked to the couch 'cause they scairt to move …

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All the best of the best weed I smoked in the late 60s, and 70s, would have you going both mentally, and physically. Start out with a lung busting, energetic high. The best of it, making one paranoid about going in public. Because, they will know Im high type weed. Eyes completely bloodshot. Also with a huge, heavy, drunk type of comedown. Also youd be high for hours and hours. You would raid the refrigerator, after a few hours. Go to sleep. Wake up 3 hours later, still ripped, and possibly hit the refrigerator, again.
Dont see much weed like this anymore.
Last weed I saw like that, was a late 80s-early 90s cross of
NL5 x Haze x Nevils Hashplant x Skunk #1.
I lost it to the feds, when a partner ratted me out, after I gave him 500 clones to put on his farm, 150 miles away, and he got caught. They came oand found 750 more. I did almost 8 years locked up, and 5 years supervised release. He got off completely. I was 39 then, and he was 70. He owned a 2000 acre farm, in south central Ky. Really nice farm. Lots of lime, and calcium in the soil there. Bluegrass region… Not far from cornbread mafia. I met him through his niece.
My buddy gave me 15 seeds of it.
He got it when he went to an Eagle Scout Convention, in Louisville, Ky, in 1991. My buddy, was an Eagle Scout Master, and a Paramdic, of 20+ years. He was alo the one the local hospital would call to identify poisonous mushrooms, if someone came in with mushrooms, and suspected poisoning.
He met a younger guy, who was also an Ealge Scout Master, and they got to talking about weed, and my buddy told him he grew, and the guy offered my friend 2 different strains. I cant remember what genetics he kept were. I remember it had Kush- which was probably Kush, as in from Kush Mountains vs what is today called Kush. It also had Hashplant, and Sk1, and maybe Haze. But dont remember the combinations.
I gave the 15 seeds, to a buddy that was growing at the time, and we split the seeds he made from them, and weed, from a couple plants, he didnt pollinate.
As soon as I dry toked it, I knew it was special, and unlike anything Id tasted, since some green columbian sinsemilla, my older sisters boyfriends friend, brought back from Santa Marta, in 1972. He worked for a shipping company, out of Key West, and they went to Columbia, a few times a year, and he would bring back the best weed, he could find. Usually about 50lbs. And give it to his brother, here in NE Ky, to get rid of. It was the most expensive weed, Id seen up to that time. Most weed was $20oz, or $40-1/4lb, for some good weed. This was $40, an oz. In 72. It was green, with light fluffy buds. Not hard like Columbian gold, or red, and didnt smell like the cedar/incense of red/gold. This as floral, and sweet. Lung buster. With a really heavy paranoia type high.
The strain I had, was the best I saw since that stuff. And I also liked it better than Vietnamese Black, another buddies older brother brought back from Nam, in 1971. But not to diss it. It also had a really racy, paranoia inducing type high, and some, may say they liked it better. But, for overall, taste included, the Columbian, was my favorite.

The strain I had, I had people get mad at me, and claim I put PCP, in the joint. One girl/woman, is still mad at me, 28 years later, and still thinks I put PCP in it. I somked some with her, her boyfriend, and a couple other people, and after a joint, she ended up in front of the toilet, gagging, and heaving, for 4 hours, Dizzyy, Paranoid, and swore I put drugs in the weed. I also lost customers over it, because many were older, and when they came home from work, they wanted a more couch lock type high, and even 1 toke of this, would have them looking out the curtains, knowing the cops were out there. Also consider, Im still, in an extremely unfriendly state.
Im just trying to find some extremely hard hitting, long lasting, lung busting really good tasting weed, that will make your eyes bleed out of their sockets.

Thats another thing. Many speak of smooth weed. No Choke, easy comedown. All I know is the very best of the best weed I ever smoked would make one cough their brains out, and had a really heavy, physical comedown. Seems like much of that has been bred out, for the continuing quest for high THC numbers, which IMHO, are or can be extremely misleading.
Ive smoke claimed 30+++ percent ect, and, if it was 30%, then the stuff I had, was 75%. Which, I know, it wasnt.

I know, the NL5 x Haze, originally came with a Warning, that it would make people paranoid, and possible bowel loss. And, as per above. Ive seen it happen, on several occasions. I believe whomever made those original seeds, found, or had access, to some super duper NL5 x Haze cut, or they found the plant themselves, and as many think, PIFF, was/is NL5 x Haze. Then, what I had, was crossed with the Hashplant/Sk1. Id say the strain I had, got its taste from the Hashplant/Skunk1, as it tasted, like the best Nepali Temple Balls, that ever came out of Nepal.
And when growing, it reeked of floral catpiss, and would penetrate any concrete building.
It was also Narrow Leaf, small stems, medium yield, and it also must have gotten it flowering days, from the HP/Sk1, as it was done in 6-7 weeks. You could cut buds off, at 28 days, and slow dry them, in a microwave ( Blasphemy ), on Defrost, and the shit would knock your brains out, at 4 weeks. It was still better, than anything anyone else had, when not near done. And still tasted like hash.
Funny though, Outside, it was Late. It wsnt done in NE-Ky, until the 1st week of November, but no more than 7 weeks, inside. I assume, it just had a late flowering response in nature, but to 12/12 overnight, was more than enough to send them into alarm mode, and make them flower extremely fast.

I have been buying some so called Piff, and Cuban Black Haze crosses, and BX, to possible find a killer Female, which I think some say are NL5 x Haze genetics.
I also have all kinds of Crickets and Cicada gear. Mainly stuff with Puck, and the Pacific Northwest Hashplant genetics.
I was thinking of using the C&C Skunk x Puck, as the Male, and breed it to some type of heavy duty NL5 x Haze genetics, or some type of heavy duty sativa, paranoia type high, and considering the Skunk x Puck has a pretty good, heavy high, it would make a possibly good candidate, to try and recreate my old strain, to some extent.
Ive got 4 packs of the Skunk x Puck.
And as you probably know, the Puck, is a pheno found in a pack of Nevils Hashplant, around 1988.
These are some of the NL5 x Haze, and Nevils Hashplant type genetics, Ive run down so far.
Ive got 2 packs of these


The Silk Road are F2 of Crickets and Cicada Red Lebanese x Pacific Northwest Hashplant x NL1. Which the Male PNWHP/NL1 was the same genetics as the original Nevils Hashplant

2 packs of these



4 packs

acks

Possible genetics for Indica/MALE Side Genetics
4 packs of the Skunk/Pick
The square case are Puck S1, from ElJefe Gardens. Only place Ive ever seen have Puck S1. They say they are very finicky. And were $$$$. Also really interested in the Shoreline/Puck cross.

F2 of Crickets and Cicada PNWHP X Puck BC1

2 packs

Im waiting on the release of Lucky 13 Seeds-1985 Skunk 1 IBL, to be released early next year. It was released earlier, and sold out almost instantly. Its been tested, at 22%. It may be a good Sk1, to cross to Puck/PNWHP. I would use a Female Sk1. I would also use a Female NL5 x Haze, or some type of high energy sativa.

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Hehe, it’s crazy how we’re all so alike in one way another. :wink:
Right on brotha. :call_me_hand:t4:

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Well from all the indica that you like , seems you want stoned instead of high . If that’s the case then ACE Malawi or any of the Kiona 164 or other Viet Black hybrids . Golden Tiger also has Malawi crossed w/ Thai . Version 2 used Koh Chang Thai & certain Thai dom phenos have a cold sterile clinical high . Makes ya feel like you’re a lab project . Makes " Cookie Monster " run screaming for the exit kinda shit . Version 3 has both the Koh Chang & Chang Mai Thai + Malawi . Generally a warmer , more lysergic high . Lung buster aint had that in years since the '70’s , real mona amarillo / rojo or Nepali . I’m an old Fla cracker & like you live in an unfriendly locale . All 3 are quite capable of producing " rearrange yer day " smoke . Blood red beady eyeballs w/ lids at razor blade clearance . Goofy-assed grin u caint erase w/ a 9" angle-grinder . Local mooches only hit you up once & then they scairt . All the best vipers have Chinese eyes .

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Its not that I like Indica so much, I bought all of those Indica Dom strains, because my old strain had Nevils work in it, from the Nevils Hashplant, and its genetics are PNWHP x NL1, and Puck, is the offspring, of Nevils Hashplant, thus, more Nevils genetics. And I wasnt going to let them get away. I also usually buy at least 2 packs of any strain, thus why, some of them, I have 4 packs. Many of the NL5 x Haze crosses I bought, arent easy to find, on the average.
Im also very familiar with Ace, Malawi, A5, Nigerian ect. And is why I said, other strain recommendations also welcome. I knew I left some strains out.

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I have told this story before. Back in 1969 I scored some Michoacan that was something I still chase today. Light green in color with a pleasant scent. This was devastating with hallucinations-Physical, visually and audibly. Once the train left-you were going.

As an example I took a pinner with me to meet 5 guys. Everyone scoffed at that pinner. Until I lit it, nice sandalwood scent. After two hits, 3 guys dropped out. Before the 3d pass one of the guys said “where the F*@k” did you get that?

I have been chasing that one all my life.

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You did post paranoia inducing in caps…assumed that was priority . Which in my evil mind screams equatorial sativa rocket fuel . Not all are wired for sound but the right ones are worth the hunt .For me any indica content takes that edge away . While if done right it does make for a dreamier / mellower stone w/ yer mind still in space . Nevils original work is classic for a reason . 89 / 90 vintage NL C5 Haze would lower blood press & glucose levels , folks would fall out . Good luck finding an A5 or C5 that’ll do that now days . Full spectrum cannibinoids no longer exist in " Montsano Weed " dispenso world .

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Ive actually, never bought dispensary weed. Ive smoked it before, but Im in an unfriendly state. Best dispensary weed I smoked came from Michigan, about 10 years ago. Have no idea what the strain was. A buddy brought some down, and smoked it with me.

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