FourFour Outdoor - Bodhi, Dynasty, Lemon Tree, etc

@CocoaCoir There is some Chem in the Dream Beaver… I haven’t noticed looking at the plants, but those closeup pics do look similar.

@Magu I like it. Makes sense with the fact (or at least the theory) that mitochondria were separate organisms many moons ago. Also when are you going to start a grow log?? I want to see more of your plants and forest garden and theories.

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Maybe some time in the future. :grin: We are in a terrible drought here. It’s kicking my ass and I spend all my time trying to find forage for my cows. It has not rained for months and all the grass is dead and no one will sell any hay. We have sold cows, Are selling more cows on tuesday and will sell even more cows in 2 weeks. It is the only way to keep the farm going but when next spring comes we will be all set up to rebuild. :+1: I might drop a picture here with an explanation from time to time but I cant spare any time to maintain a grow journal. :grin:

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That’s seriously fucked up, and I’m very sorry to hear it. Farming of any kind is a tough row to hoe. I hope the coming spring is better than your wildest imagination!

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Thank you for your kind words @mota . Everything will be fine. :grin: You are correct that farming is a gamble. Unfortunately this year we lost but we are not in debt and we own our land so this is more of a “ reset “. When spring comes the grass will grow and the calves will be born and the world will be brand new.:v::smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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Having no debt goes a long way towards being really free. Real property! :+1: Oh hell yes!!

I love your positive attitude! d8JBdDJ

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Damn @Magu… sorry to hear that, but I love your spirit. I guess you wouldn’t last long with a farm if you weren’t optimistic and hopeful… It will be a great Spring!

Here’s a little summer greenhouse project I have going on. I mainly use it to overwinter some plants and start seeds in, so I wanted to find some use for it in the summertime besides just being a storage shed.

I took 10 gallons of water from the Pacific Ocean in July, and here’s where we’re at after a couple months of evaporation:

This will get me about a half gallon of sea salt. It’s so cool to see the crystals start to form. I also like to add a little (like 1 tablespoon in a 5-gal bucket) seawater to teas/foliar sprays on my plants throughout the summer. I don’t know if it’s enough to really make a difference from a mineral perspective, but it feels good haha.

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Oh, that’s cool as shit. Ten gallons is a lot of water, what’d you pour it on? I’m looking closely at the pics, but I can’t tell what that is haha.

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Yeah I fill (2) 5-gallon buckets, it’s a workout carrying them back up the beach to the car haha. I dumped them in a kiddie pool covered with black poly sheeting. I cover it with a bug net too but I pulled that off to take some pics.

Edit: those cubes are about 1/8” wide for scale

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So, so awesome @FourFour !
You collect your own kelp too?

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Haha, yeah, I thought about that. And also everybody on the beach being like,”What’s this asshole doing…?”

Anyway, that’s cool. Sometimes I use SEA-90 once or twice during a grow, but I forget to use it a lot, too. I still have the same bag I bought like ten years ago haha, there’s tons left. I’ve noticed pretty good results when I do remember to use it, though.

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When I go to the coast I like to bring home seawater, seaweed, horsetail, and elderberries. This last trip I just had time to run down to the beach on my way home and scoop up some water. I have a full box of kelp meal so didn’t devote any time to look for any, but it’s expensive so I have future plans to do more kelp hunting.

Haha yeah, luckily the Oregon coast is a weird place so I haven’t got any looks (yet). Plus it’s cold and windy all the time so you usually don’t see many people on the beach, at least the places I go. North coast is more crowded with the Portland traffic.

Yeah it’s gotta be good. I’m worried about the salt in the seawater so haven’t used much when I do add it, but I want to research into extracting the other minerals from it. Basically figure out how to make homemade SEA-90. There’s a guy on here that does it, might have to ask him.

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I mean… As I understand it, SEA-90 is pretty much exactly the same thing as what you’re doing, with the evaporated salt water and all. The only difference would be where they’re getting that salt water from, which is apparently REALLY GOOD SALT WATER haha.

I dunno.

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Fall is here, but the weather has been awesome - high 70s, into the 80s, dew in the morning and sunny all day. I usually get impatient this time of year waiting for things to finish up. But then the harvest is bittersweet because I miss having the plants around. Trying to appreciate everything and ‘live in the moment, man’.

Kush4 x SSDD f2’s

#1 started flower later but seems to have caught up. It has flatter golf ball-y buds and has more earthiness than it’s berry-forward sisters:

#2:

#3 smells like an actual blueberry right now. A lot of the blueberry strains I have going have a general fruity/berry smell, but this one is straight up blueberry:

Obama Kush x Blue Magoo bx3. I wish I could shrink down and live in this plant, it smells so good haha. I haven’t tried much to pinpoint the different scents, I just love smelling it. I’ll be sad when this one gets cut down:

Vintage Blueberry has become the prettiest plant with all the different colors. It looks even more vibrant in person:

PSH :

Blue Magoo bx3 f2:

‘Chem 91’:

I pollinated a branch of everything above with the Dream Beaver male. It’s got pretty chunky flowers for a small plant and has some visible trichomes. I also didn’t water it for like 2 weeks. It’s been in a hot greenhouse and it hasn’t even flinched. Seems promising and I’m excited to test out the crosses, but not excited that my seed list will be growing haha.

Dream Beavers

Female is pollinated, kinda wish I would’ve covered one of the buds for some sensi…

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Oh shit, you’re right! It’s sea salt haha. Sorry, actually it’s “natural crystals produced multiple times per year from sea water”. Their website tries really hard to hide the fact that it’s sea salt.

Would be interesting to do a test to compare their crystals with my crystals. I wish I was more into chemistry…

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That Dream Beaver male looks really good, though. Nice, tight floral clusters etc etc. Maybe not much frost, but hopefully the females will provide that.

Or whatever haha.

I dunno about that. I knew that that’s what they were doing and I’m pretty unobservant haha. I haven’t checked out their site in a whiiiiiiile, but if I remember correctly, it was where they were getting the water from that was so “special.”

Either way, I don’t think their ocean water and your ocean water’ll be much different from one another haha.

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I think the Atlantic has less nuclear waste from Fukushima than the pacific :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:.
I’m just kidding, they’re all fucked!

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Haha, yeahhhhh, I thought about that. But then, like you said, I figure all of the oceans are polluted as fuck. Gotta figure maybe, hopefully the evaporation process weeds some of that stuff out. Right? Haha.

I’m just glad I bought my bag of SEA-90 before the Fukushima thing. I think? Haha. When did that happen? I can’t remember. I really have no idea, but I’m gonna make a point to water with it a couple times for the current grow.

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That Dream Beaver situation you got there looks great. Glad it’s working.

Also, everytime I read that name on this thread, the song “Dream Weaver” starts going in my head. So thanks.

I’m just kidding, they’re all fucked!

You said it, Ron :rofl:

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Thanks, yeah, I’m done pollinating (or so I tell myself) but I’m going to let him flower out fully to see how he finishes. Sometimes you have to grow 100 plants, sometimes you get lucky with 1. Never know until you grow out the seeds though…

The website now pretty much just tells you the benefits of using it. I guess there’s a picture of a bag that says ‘Mineral Salt’ on it haha, but the only thing they say about what it actually is, is “mineral nutrients”. Which makes sense because less people would buy it if it was called ‘Sea Salt for Plants’ haha.

Yeah… the pollution thing is a concern, radioactive or otherwise. Send me some Atlantic sea nutriments, would you Ron? Haha

That’s one reason the SEA-90 might be worth it… they get their special nutrient crystals from the Sea of Cortez, so it’s protected from the Pacific, allegedly. Who knows…

Haha apparently that’s where Bodhi came up with the name! You can thank him.

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I mean, I don’t have an issue with the SEA-90 people. I think they genuinely care about what they’re doing and I have seen good results when I remember to use it. I don’t know why I think they’re genuine, but I get a sense that they are.

Like Ron said, though, all the oceans are polluted, so I don’t see any difference between you collecting water from the Pacific and the SEA people collecting their water from wherever it is that they do that haha…

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