Frankie’s Daughters Updates and a Plan of Action
Friends and Neighbors, thanks for your interest in this project!
The first phase of this plan was the creation of viable feminized Frankenstein S1 seeds. That part is a done deal. Both my batch of “Daughters” and Johnnypotseed’s forthcoming sale of S1 seeds from other growers are soon to be at large on OG. (JP’s Fem Frankie seed sale starts 15 January, see his Hall of Genetics thread for info)
This seems like a good time to pause for a recap of what we know and what resources we have on hand to work with.
So, here’s the Past, the Present and the Proposal for our little part in the Feminized Frankenstein S1 seed story.
Oh, yeah, there’s a seed giveaway to be announced too…
But let’s start with what we know.
- Chemically reversing and self pollinating Frankie clones does result in viable seeds.
- Growing out those seeds produces healthy plants in at least two visibly different S1 phenotypes (Hilda & Olive). The chemotype of these plants is still unknown pending our first harvest.
- Both phenos and the Frankie clone mother are easily cloned.
- It remains to be seen if the S1 plants themselves can be chemically “Selfed” to create pollen with their own unique genetics.
- Only a few dozen of my S1 seeds have been grown so far so there may be additional phenotypes to be discovered along with other less obvious genetic variations.
- Perhaps most importantly, like many S1 reversal projects, the only thing sure is that they are indeed feminized seeds. The first ones are still vegging!
Here are the Frankie-related “resources” I have to work with here. (A few OG buddies are also working these seeds and they have additional plants going.)
Two Frankie clone-only bonsai moms
One STS reversed Frankie clone with developing pollen sacs.
Two healthy Hilda plants vegging in octos
One rooted Hilda clone just transplanted to Dixie cup
Two Healthy Olive plants vegging in octos
Two tiny Olive cuts hopefully developing roots in the cloning tray
AND a bag of Fem Frankie S1 seeds stored cool and dry.
Time to make some decisions about where to take this project next.
The three obvious options would be:
- Create pollen from both S1 phenotypes we’ve found and use it to breed an S2 generation for each of the “Hilda”(Large) & “Olive”(Tiny) phenotypes. Hilda x Hilda S1, & Olive x Olive S1.
- Use STS reversal pollen from an original Frankie clone to backcross Hilda & Olive with their clone-only Frankie Mother plant, in the hope of recreating (something closer to) the original Frankenstein mother plant in seed form. Frankie clone x Hilda & Frankie clone x Olive.
- Grow out the Hilda and Olive plants that I have on hand for righteous bud, enjoy brief and unwarranted fame for posting the first definitive Smoke Test of the Fem Frankie S1 seed run, then fold up my tent and retire from the Frankie Phenomenon entirely.
TBH, door number 3 is enticing, take a bow and walk away. Amateur cannabis breeding is not for the faint of heart and it is a lot of work!
My first love honestly is training large plants for big yield, grown in large pots filled with supersoil compost from my orchard waste. Babysitting fussy clones, avoiding accidental pollen chucks and spraying hazardous chemicals to initiate unnatural sex acts on innocent cannabis plants isn’t my cup of tea. I look forward to getting back to my own “Roots,” once this plane has safely landed.
But, at this point I have a lot invested in the project and I’ve coerced a few OG friends to help out so it’s probably best to wrap up my part of the Fem Frankie story in some sort of style.
After thinking hard about this, and consulting with growers who know more than I, I propose to adopt the following goals for this project.
Ordered by priority:
- Backcross both Hilda & Olive phenos with pollen from the Frankenstein clone-only mother obtained using STS reversal.
- Use some of my remaining S1 seeds for a Frankenstein’s Daughter Pheno Hunt to determine if there are any other interesting heteromonstrositie phenotypes. Hint: Seed GiveAway!
- Finally, I intend to grow some of my own Frankie BX seeds in large pots filled to the brim with supersoil topped with a scrog screen with a huge, healthy Monster’s Daughter plant spreading her limbs beneath it.
The first goal, Creating Frankenstein in seed form, is the only one I really care about. That was what I had in mind when I purchased the Frankenstein cuts from JP. It is yet unrealized and still a primary objective.
It is clear to me that selfing the Frankie mother clone for seeds has released a genie from it’s biological bottle. Additional reversals of Hilda and Olive, producing an S2 “GrandDaughter” generation is more likely to diverge further from the original Frankenstein than towards it.
If there is a path to recreate Frankie in seed form it will be by back crossing Frankie S1 Daughters with a Frankenstein clone-only mother. I have everything I need to do that so that’s my primary task and I’m already on the case.
I believe I mentioned a Seed Giveaway…
My secondary goal, Desperately Seeking Phreaky Phrankie Phenos, is potentially fun for the whole family. I’d like to see if any OG growers have the time, facilities, and desire to do a highly structured, short duration sea of green / Dixie cup pheno hunt?
Details to follow, but basically you’d be gifted seeds upon a pledge to plant them quickly, grow them up to 12" and report your results in this thread with pictures and any relevant comments! Any extra seeds, and the plants you grow are yours to keep. ***Anybody up for that assignment? ***
So that’s a wrap, thanks for following, smoke it like a Grower friends,
-Grouchy 
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