Love seeing you stabilze Frankie. Will beans be available at some time?
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Dunno yet. I’m still a ways away from having seeds in hand. I may make some interesting F1 crosses first and drop those seeds for OG testers.
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have you bred out the occasional hermie early in flower? Here is my frankie hasnt been happy all grow but still grew pretty big.
about 6wks after flip
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I have seen the Early flower hermie in Frankie. Was not sure if it was common or just my screwup.
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I have only grown one Frankie and it didn’t herm although it was a total mess the whole grow. There could have been a number of reasons for that. I did however get something out of that plant. A Frankenstein x LSD cross. Kind of want to see what they do.
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I think the last hermi flowers in my line was bx3 and they were lower branches and very late in flower. They didn’t seem to produce pollen.
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Trying to understand the Speed Cup method.
Won’t the roots go searching for the water source same as normal octo transplant?
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Nice, Doug. Frankie x LSD sounds kinda legendary!!
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Im hoping for no - and you can use it like a seedling battery charger 
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Hi @JOHN1234
No big mystery, this is just an easy way to efficiently grow out some small plants by allowing the Octopot to provide consistent water and nutes to a plant in a cup that can be removed if needed for future transplanting, reversing or whatever. The roots tend to fill the speed cup rather than migrate deeper into the octo rez. A few roots escape through the holes in the cup, but I have yet to see any actually reach the octo rez.
I started using this for my bonsai Mother plants, that need to be kept healthy for very long periods with minimal maintenance. I periodically remove the plants from their cups for root pruning but otherwise they are fed by the octo and can go weeks without any other care. I also found it useful for rapid phenotyping because I can grow a bunch of small plants in a limited space to pick the best among them.
Consider these three plants:
I don’t know exactly what I’m going to do with them yet, but they will likely be useful and I want them to stay healthy. That single octo will hold them safely until they are needed. And when they are I’ll just remove their speed cup and move them to a final home, a solo octo, a bigger soil pot or maybe outdoors.
TBH, I’m not sure why this works as well as it does. I originally thought they’d get wet feet and suffer overwatering, but they actually seem fine with always having some damp soil around to draw from.
Make Sense?
-Grouchy
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Makes perfect sense. Thanks @GrouchyOldMan!
Great medium / space saving hack.
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I do this outdoors in my nursery beds. Plants in peat cups buried in the bed and mulched. To be protected as one unit by a clear cover. Subjected to less extremes of temperature and moisture by being in buried peat pots. If im busy a day or two and dont see them, they are usually fine.
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It’s a Boy!
The Art and Science behind chemical reversal of cannabis has always fascinated me. There’s no other characteristic as fundamental as sex in these plants, it is established sexually through dioecious pollination and it controls most of the developmental structure of the plant throughout its lifetime. Fundamental, right?
And yet, a few spritzings with some off the shelf chemistry, and the whole program is changed. It excites my imagination to be in control of that power, even of a humble plant! lol
So I’ve been on anther watch for a week now, 30x loupe in hand, cannabis detective, scanning for the first show of tiny melons replacing pistils on my reversed flowers. Once they arrive it’s like popcorn, takes awhile for the first kernel to pop, but suddenly the whole pot is full.
Today was that day for the BX-Pollen plant. Take a zoom and see if you agree? I’ll drop a few more pics later on.
So that means that we should have enough pollen to completely dose that big BX fem in the corner and make BX6 seeds. Should be somethin ta see…
-Grouchy 
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The Kids Are All Right
Grabbed some pics today as this whole family is maturing fast. Half way through week two of flower.
Both pollen plants have boy parts a popping. No more STS needed here.
Huevos Gigantes!. Get a load of them melons!
The IBL seed plant has a beautiful structure for yield. I count over 60 bud sites visible to the electric sunshine. I’m betting @BU2B would approve of this “PPP-style” canopy! For training, I made one cut, topped at node 6. Then she just spread herself out in this giant cup. In the orchard we’d call it a Vase training.
By happenstance that vase shape is optimal for the photon density map of my ViparSpectra XS2000 LEDs. The photon flood delivered across the plant canopy is almost the same all over because the center of the growth is the low spot, further below the light but right in the hot spot where the light puts out the most energy. The periphery branches are taller and closer to the light but the edges don’t get as much light. Perfecto!
So, in that pic above, pretty much wherever I measure PPFD at leaf level (using the Photone App), it reads between 700 - 750 PPFD across around the canopy.
The lights can crank up way over 1,000, but I’ve become wary of pushing these LEDs too hard, especially when the light fixture is lowered too close to the plants. 18” minimum, above the highest branches.
The Lady plants are putting on some early sugar as they taper off the stretch. The burnt leaf tips are unusual for Frankie. The BX line in particular isn’t the typical Frankie, ravenously hungry beast for nutes. Both BX & IBL lines have a craving for cal/mag that I’m treating with Epsom/Gypsum. I’m upping that every res change until the occasional spotty leaves are history.
Not sure yet if these are gonna stack up, or make golfballs.
-Grouchy
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Right on…happy things are working out and thanks again for sharing your hard work and dedication!!!
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Yep it’s an IT!
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Look’n GOOD!! Grouchy… 
Cheers
G
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