I’m tuned into this thread…keep up the great work and thanks for sharing
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Amazing work, NASA will now be calling… 
Cheers
G
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Same boat. Clog between control and pot almost killed my jack Herer plant. Was out of town for 3 days came back to a parched plant. Between this and the mold in the greenhouse…
It’s been a shin kicking contest.
All I can think is upgrading hose OD to 3/4.
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Shucks Knife, I thought you’d licked this problem w/ liquid nutes and that algae killer product.
Hmmm, a larger pipe from the large rez to the controller or, better yet, maybe a more robust type of float valve could do the trick. I’ll start the search.
Some of these are fpr 1/4" copper pipe with a compression fitting, so some kind of adapter needed.
-Grouchy
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Wonder if something like this could be workable? Been thinking about going to autofill res for the octos. 
That’s the thing. I cleared the lines. No gunk. I think roots in the bulkhead or something…
Right now debating 1/2".
Havig trouble finding a manifold.
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Those look like a good solution, easy retrofit that should fit in our existing controller boxes.
No reason not to leave the smaller tubing downstream of the controller?
Ya know, we need to move this discussion to the AutoFiller thread! I’ve been meaning to add the gritty details of “Suspended Animation” there anyways.
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This thread is so damned interesting to me. I always look forward to your updates here, @GrouchyOldMan . Thank you so much for keeping us updated!
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I’m on a steep learning curve as these plants wake up from a long sleep. I’m keeping notes on my missteps and successes. Lessons to be learned, but overall they are all returning to healthy growth.
This is the BX6-P1 Mother plant, newly awake and reaching for the electric sun!
The IBL & BX6 seed fems have had a rough time getting back on track. They were both pretty huge and I trimmed them down, and in, to form a nice canopy that will fill in as they resume normal veg growth.
Their problem was specific to octopots and I’m still working through it. One of the tools I use in diagnosing plant problems is strategic defoliation of damaged or characteristic leaves from an area or branch of the affected plant.
This is best done at the same time you introduce a change in pH, or nutes, PPFD, whatever. Trim out all the problem leaves on a branch and see if any newly damaged ones appear.
Did That Work? Asked and answered in a day or so. Here’s the IBL Seed female after a selective haircut today.
She’s still gonna be a monster sized plant I reckon. That plant has been in Octo veg since June, I think.
-Grouchy 
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This is probably ill-advised!
What I should do here is to put together another incremental update on the plants, but it’s still a work in progress and there’s not much to say.
So, instead, I’m going to share a Taste Test “result” that is way more interesting.
I finally got around to “Proofng” the chems in the BX5 series harvest, and it was surprising to say the least. I’m going to forego any pretense of modesty and flirt with hubris by stating here that this is some mighty good dope!
I consumed 2ml of a Quick Proof batch of tincture from the BX5 outdoor survivor plants mentioned above. A half hour later I realized in a sudden awareness that I was high. Really high. Gobsmacked. Three hours later I came down somewhere near normalcy. Good dope.
Good enough that I want to try and describe the high, because this is all about the high. I’ve sampled every stage of the breeding program for Frankenstein’s Daughters and commented on the presence of some “Uniqueness” in the chemovar effect of this strain. Others have noted this as well.
I variously described it as the ability to migrate at will between two mental stony states; a mellow couchy relaxation, and a state of ready awareness and engagement. It was the second case, ‘snapping to attention and functioning’ that I think I was identifying as unique in my experience. Usually, when a chemovar is as deeply stony as Frankenstein, arising from body couch lock may be challenging. Not so with Frankie. Unique.
That character is dialed up to 10 in BX5. I’m both high as kite but still focused and pulsing with energy. It’s a pure rush, reminiscent of the white powder rush, an empowerment. Manic, that’s it. Manic without the hangover. And it goes on for hours.
That’s my report from a Quick Proof QWET tincture made overnight from rando trim scraps just to get an early indication.
So, yeah.
-Grouchy
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Can you please school me on the difference between “quick proof” and the 24 hour soak I currently use.
Thank you
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That’s a good question @TARpits but I think I’m gonna address it in @ReikoX’s tincture encyclopedia rather than here.
Check here tomorrow:
-Grouchy
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Great report @GrouchyOldMan!
Your dedication and perseverance is really showing.
Cheers to your success 
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I live and breath this technique! I’m glad to see a seasoned grower as yourself using same method.
It’s a amazing to see what you are doing with this great strain. Got another Frankie going in flower at this time.
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That’s so cool @420noob, you can flower along with my BX6 gen. Please feel free to drop some pics for us to share!
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Nice to see you working to stabilize JPS’ years of breeding! I hope these seeds travel far and wide, spreading JPS’ work to the masses, Frankenstein is some really good weed
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Let’s Go Walkabout
A calm evening after an eventful day. Let’s take a tour of the plants with pics & notes.
- I lost the IBL-pollen plant this week. Causes unknown, but my best guess is a health crisis in the process of waking up from deep slumber. Or she didn’t like the STS treatments? Or transplant shock? Went from robust to intensive care Code Blue Stat! overnight. Go Figger.
- To keep the breeding plan alive, I made a quickie replacement for the dead IBL-pollen plant by swapping in the IBL mother plant herself after taking replacement clones. She was a healthy specimen, not much bigger than the BX-pollen plant, a near twin. It was my best and only way to keep things on schedule, and a good compromise all around.
Here’s the newly recruited IBL-Pollen. Just beginning STS mistings. I took clones from her to create a new IBL Bonsai Mom. The line is intact.
The BX-Pollen plant survived the Big Sleep in this pot since June. Recovered slowly from hibernation but is just the size I’d hoped. STS x 3 treatments already, beginning a week before 12/12 flower lighting flip. I’m hoping for pollen from this one a week or so before the IBL pollen drops. The “pot within a pot”is another useful trick. When the pollen is ready to drop I can pluck those inner pots loose from their Octo pups and isolate them for pollination! Works great.
The IBL & BX seed plants (right side), one week into flower. They have great structure, didn’t mind the severe scalping I gave them, Week one of 12/12 flower. The stretch is on now, but I have room and height to spare. Let er buck!
(That tiny dead stick in the lower left corner is the former IBL-Pollen RIP!)
My BX5 mom (right), and an original Frankie clone Bonsai reside in a metal TKD gym locker under CFL bulbs. Sounds ridiculous but they seem to thrive in there and throw off cuts like a prodigal son every few weeks.
The IBL mom is now in the form of clones in the rooter tray. These babies are about ready to hit some soil.
So one week into 12/12 flower I’m scanning the growth nodes on the STS reversal plants for signs of boy parts. I’ve got a couple promising glimpses. See if you can pick them from these images?
The seed moms are also tossing up flowers as they stretch. Pretty.
Enough Said,
-Grouchy
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Nice save glad you had another option.
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Great update…you seem to have dealt with the problem you had quite well and are keeping everything moving right along!!! Right on…and impressive…thanks for sharing your progress with us
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One foot in front of the other
The big news is that I believe I have spotted male pollen sacks developing on the BX pollen plant. This would be exceedingly good news since the 6th generation of seeds depends in part on this pollen.
The IBL pollen plant is almost two weeks behind in STS treatments, and I’m hoping that will allow me to stagger the BX & IBL pollination dates to help prevent cross pollination. I don’t expect a sex showing there for awhile.
I also decided on an opportunistic experiment with three of my backup clones that aren’t really needed now. Since they are all still small and will be lagging the more mature plants, I’m going to see if I can raise all three in speed cups residing the same octopup. I’ll manage their feeding separately from the autofiller.This “Pot in an octopot” technique is coming in real handy. The plants seem to actually like it, and I can pull the cups as needed for pollination or transplant or whatever.
They won’t take up much space and I thought it might be fun to hit them with some extra pollen for more seeds, or set them aside for three little bud producers. I wonder what would result if I hit an Original Frankie Mom with BX5 pollen?
Here’s the process.
Pack the netcup with soil then add about 2 inches of very loose soil above the cup. Use empty speed cups as molds to hold the position as you gently tamp the loose and lightly moistened soil around the cups. You want the soil firm but still spongy…Don’t prime the speed cups with water, let it absorb upwards from the rez .
Bottom water the speed cups before transplant and let them drip dry before inserting them into the Octo. Fill the Octo Rez to the top. This is the last time you’ll need to add water for many weeks. Watch for a slow drawdown in the Octo Rez.
I thought it was interesting to compare the very different structures of the original Frankenstein Clone-only mother, and the BX5 plants. How far we’ve come!
Going on three years now, the original Frankie clone hasn’t changed a bit in character. Unmistakable random structure, stubbornly female, a big furry bush! Most of the S1 & S2 plants looked like this.
That look began to disappear in BX3+ and is completely gone in BX5. The BX and IBL lines have a whole different growth pattern. Young and old, they all look alike.
That is all,
-Grouchy
PS, I’m pleased folks are interested in this project and appreciate the feedback. I am energized to see where this ends up…
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