GedLang's Indoor Fall 2024 - Orient Express, Tangy Haze, Unicorn Poop F2s

I’m just starting a log here to track my latest round of indoor growing. Yesterday I harvested my two outdoor Zamaldelica Auto plants and hung them up to dry in my tent. It will be done in about 7-10 days and the tent will be ready for a new cycle.

I also planted some new seeds and they’ve started to pop up.

The Unicorn Poop had a helmet head that I had to remove. I’m watching to see if it can break free on its own, otherwise I’ll have to cut away the enveloping membrane.

Orient Express (feminized) is from Ace Seeds and is a cross between Vietnamese Black and China Yunnan. Somewhere around a 50/50 hybrid; description says cerebral and clean high with no paranoia. Tangy Haze is bagseed from one of my favorite CBD strains of all time. The heritage is a mystery to me; I got it from Ellie Hou farms in 2022 but they have not grown it again and no other farm has ever sold it as far as I can tell. I get the feeling they may re-name some strains they grow. It was uplifting, a bit energetic with an orange/tangerine flavor. I found the effects to be quite strong and noticeable for CBD flower. I’m excited that my only seed successfully popped! And the Unicorn Poop F2s are freebies from North Atlantic seed co. I don’t really know anything about them but I mostly am interested in seeing how fast they will show sex under my current setup and how small a pot I can get away with for organic soil. So they are guinea pig seeds, just want something to play around with and not care about the harvest.

Keep it positive up in here and thanks for reading!

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I had to remove the membrane from the Unicorn Poop seedling because it was stuck. I’ve read that some folks try to just keep it moist, or even moisten with saliva to get enzymes to work on it, but I’ve found success with using tweezers. I have some very sharp/pointy electronics tweezers that work great for this.
Before:

And after:

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The second seed of Unicorn Poop has not germinated… yet? I’m going to leave it and see what happens. The other four plants are cruising along, Unicorn Poop is in the lead. Non-cannabis plants are shiso clones to the right and panda plant clones to the left.

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I try to post honestly even when things aren’t stellar - three of the four seedlings have barely grown at all in the past week. Not sure why, the Unicorn Poop growth looks normal but the other three are only a little bigger than a week ago. I think they will take off when they get some roots established.

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Still seeing very slow growth on everything except the Unicorn Poop. I am thinking there is maybe not enough aeration in the soil. I was hoping the problem would solve itself once roots got established, but growth is not accelerating. I will likely transplant into a different soil composition if they do not start to catch up.

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Plants are coming along nicely :ok_hand:t2:

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I did transplant into my own reamended soil, and all three of the slow seedlings started exhibiting normal growth. Meanwhile the Unicorn Poop was in a different commercial soil from the start and had no issues. So I would conclude that the local potting soil I was using just kinda sucks. Sorry Kristy K Organics!

I have topped the Unicorn Poop and am waiting for the others to catch up. My tent is currently drying the last of my outdoor crop, so there is no rush.

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Everything has been moved into the tent and is looking good. The lowers all took a beating from staying in their original pots too long, but the new growth is good. I’m doing some training on the Unicorn Poop to try a manifold-type shape.

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All plants are doing well and have been topped. I’m trying out different manifold/topping patterns. Probably a week until I flip.

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I’ve started 12/12, and unfortunately both the unicorn poop and the tangy haze are male. I’m keeping the tangy haze in a separate area for harvesting pollen, but I composted the unicorn poop. It’s not worth it to make seeds with a strain I’ve never tried the flower of. The tangy haze is also probably not worth making seeds out of, because it was bagseed and I have no way of knowing who the male parent was. It was grown on a large CBD operation in Oregon’s Rogue Valley - lot of cbd and thc flower grown in that area from my understanding. But what the heck, it’s a nice opportunity to try out pollen harvesting.

Here are the remaining two plants, both Orient Express.

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Plants look great man, your training has them nice and spread out and they look to be in perfect health.

2 out of 4 females isn’t bad at all. I just looked up Orient Express and it’s some interesting genetics for sure, glad you’re running a journal bro good stuff.

:beers:

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Thank you! The Orient Express seeds were both feminized, so I knew what to expect with those. Some OE plants are all thc and some are 1:1 thc/cbd, so it will be interesting to see what I get.

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I found some pollen sacs on one of the two Orient Express plants:

This actually happened on one of the Kali China plants I grew last round shortly after flip, and both KC and OE have Ace’s Yunnan China as a parent, so I figure it is due to those genetics. With the KC plant I just picked them off and continued growing, didn’t have any further issues and no seeds in the finished product. These pollen sacs don’t appear to have any pollen in them, even though a few have opened up already, so I am not very concerned but will keep an eye on it.

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Looks like I missed a few pollen sacs, and they have dropped pollen in the last few days. And there are a few brown pistils, so I think it is viable pollen. I’m just going to keep going, with the hope that it was only the one round of sacs, but if more start appearing I may have to cull it. For now I’m pulling off any that dump pollen and spraying down the plants with water.

This is only happening on the plant on the left, the one on the right has no issues.

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Pic from today, must be week3-4 of flower.

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Well, I have created a problem for myself:

This run I thought I would try using a flowering nutrient that is higher in P and K. Previously I used some Build-A-Flower from Build-A-Soil but I was not very happy with it, so I thought I would try out Down-to-Earth Rose and Flower blend, which is 4-8-4 (Fish Bone Meal, Langbeinite, Blood Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Seabird Guano, Rock Phosphate, Humates and Kelp Meal ). I noticed some lower fan leaves looking deficient and decided to test some pH and EC - looks like the EC is quite high and the pH fairly low. I think that an excess of K may be blocking the uptake of magnesium.

So there is some damage to the lower fan leafs that will get worse before it gets better. I’m just going to wait it out and provide some EWC tea for bacteria boost. But it’s likely to impact yield and quality. Next time I will not push P and K to the max - it’s certainly not helping me here!

Ugly lowers:

Upper portion and buds still fine:

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I’m continuing to lose some lower fan leaves but things have started to improve.

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At 6.5 weeks now; guessing about 2 weeks left. I plan on giving some EWC tea and letting it fade the rest of the way.

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One week more? Maybe two.

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I’d expect 2+ weeks… but I’ve been wrong before… :+1: :smile:

Cheers
G

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