Amazon has some listing for DoctorZymes about the same price I paid $35 dollars for 32 fluid ozs it takes about 4 ozs per gal of water for a good strong mix . I have massive death today the little bastards are just drying up and dropping . I will spray again in a few days it can also be used as a drench to kill eggs in soil . Funny thing I didn’t have any until I trimmed up the lowers maybe helped warmup the soil and caused a hatch ?
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You should give JWA a try it’s a homemade soap I make also just KOH AND SOME CANOLA oil it does my aphids in real quick even kills grass hoppers if the get hit hard enough 4oz/gallon is what I use and Iv been doing a peppermint dottera oil at 15 Drops per gallon
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Ahh their airborne also I’d think any thing in soil if it’s healthy they wouldn’t stand a chance I think they fly in from local weeds and start their havoc… multiply faster than rabbits IMO
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There’s a 35’ x 100’ green house next door maybe when the fans kick on it blows them over the fence . I don’t use soaps anymore edibles and soap don’t mix lol .
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You ever have issue with grasshoppers? If so what helps ? Iv been looking at. NOLO BAIT was wondering if I could make the stuff by propagating it.
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Just a few and so far I just stomp them to death lol. They have caused minimal damage so far may have done a little topping . If I walk out into our fields their jumping everywhere but seem to be staying out on the dry grass with the livestock . A flyswatter is a good tool . I have a lot of birds hanging out in the garden I think they do more good than bad a little leaf damage on the sunflowers and pumpkins / beans and squash but they don’t like weed 
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Thanks for responding. To be clear the plant starts it life in may outside or is brought out already started. Very impressive.
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Gramps I’m new here… you have some mighty fine plants… already learned a lot from just reading that I do know… Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
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Now that’s a garden 
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Started from feminized seed 1 gal pots indoors in April grow tent and LEDs on the Bling and a couple of clones of Romulan and Vanilla Frosting 6 inch starts also kept under lights un till may until danger of frost passed . I start everything the same clones or feminized seed or regular . So they average about two feet tall when I move outside .
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Gawd I would have thought you pre - started those like a year lol April is not that early given what you have there. lol
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gramps, dr zymes has worked well for me in the past too, my question is, is it just citric acid? I remember reading the ingredients and just seeing citric acid, but somewhere I heard it also has enyzmes in it that work against the bugs. Dr zymes also seems to work for PM, but citric acid is acidic and usually more basic compounds are better for PM. Dr zymes is puzzling to me, I often also use something like Plant Therapy, Neem, or an insecticidal soap to supplement Dr zymes because I don’t think I understand the science behind Dr Zymes.
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Welcome! These guys are great as you can see. Follow along and learn, it gets addictive!
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I don’t understand the science behind it but it works and no stink . I’m not advocating it use only the fact it has worked for me in the past when all the home made stuff didn’t . I’m not going to spray any kind of aromatic on my personal stash lol . In the past I just hosed the little bastards off but late in the season when humidity starts to rise your just inviting mold . What ever I use early mornings are best to give the solution time to dry before full sun . The fact is I only bought it because I liked the design on the bottle
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The problem with big plants is trying to get good coverage with your spray . I need to work off of a ladder to get the tops . When the plants are in small containers its easy to spray the whole plant .
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I went to DrZymes website. Pretty cool. They recommended using it in the evening. Says to not use it over 80°. They also send samples for the cost shipping. I’ll give it a try. I’ve seen a few aphids which is early for me. Not as many predator insects around as last year. It also says to not spray beneficial insects so I guess it’s lights out if you do. That’s the only thing I didn’t really like. Thanks for the info.
I want to make some JWA per @Tinytuttle instructions. I want to treat some of natural stuff near the pot so maybe they don’t spread as easy. I haven’t had any insect problems much yet. I did lose a few plants to aphids when I left town for work and my roommate ignored them last year.
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Adjusted and dropped nets this evening waited until someone got home just incase I fell . Working off a ladder has its hazards and getting tangled up in ag nets and waiting until you were found in this heat would be bad lol .
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Nice job man, those are some healthy beasts.
Stay kind,
Pawsfodocaws
Killer heat for days some days I water twice morning and evening if I see any drooping . I’m starting to see changes the big fans are yellowing and falling and the start of buds . I don’t know when these lady’s are going to slow down The Bling . The veggies are kicking but maybe I’ll have the wife grow weed .
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