My issue isn’t finding decent plants with them as I found really nice plants in the beans. My issue is actually getting what they say they are selling, which it isn’t. They repackage bulk white label seed and sell S1 reproductions of other breeders work. Jinxproof just called them out for selling 9 pound hammer. They sell remakes and knockoffs to people looking for cheaper price points while giving zero credit to the breeders and it works. Progeny and linage are important to me, that’s why I stay away.
yeah… i have heard others complain about their “puppy mill” seed breeding/bulk stuff. i don’t disagree. i have grown out some good genetics also and see the marked differences. this was my first year growing out some humboldt seed company seeds. i rolled my eyes at the hype my first few years. now i stand humbly corrected. the OG Kush of theirs that i’m growing is a complete BEAST. was so easy to grow. every branch is a fat cola. after some more experience with growing and learning about breeding i understand all the effort that goes into F5 and it shows in this plant. amazing.
that’s NOT something you will find anytime soon in a blimburn pack. not with that type of consistency.
The least they could do is give a nod to the original breeder in their description like CSI does when he makes an S1 repro. They sell the bean and people think they’re the breeder, a strain like MAC for instance, bred by capulator but they donT give any credit while making money off a strain he created plus loads of others, too many to mention.It’s pretty shady. Least they could do is give credit to original breeder but they choose not to. Pages of info on their website regarding every cultivar but never once giving credit to original breeder, another example is GG4 by Josey wales. So many others as well. If they did people may look for the real thing and they don’t want that as it would hurt their Bottom line so they leave that info out of the descriptions they put on the website, very in depth descriptions I might add but zero credit. Bruce banner 3…… the list goes on and on. Any way, this is a little off topic so I’ll leave it at this. Take it easy and happy growing.
sounds like you’re doing good work. I went back to heirlooms and landraces to find plants with naturally balanced cannabinoid profiles. a well balanced heirloom like lebanese could be useful for you. lots of plants with thc to cbd ratios around 50/50 75/25, and rich in medicinal trace cannabinoids.
If you’d like to post that list, here’s the medical use section of the site, Medical Club - Overgrow.com
or maybe the breeders lab
Breeder's Lab - Overgrow.com
Yes, this is exactly the strategy I had when I was a caregiver. Mainly crossing afghan/pakistani landraces to worked established lines. So in this case, I would have the patient to try 4-5 different landraces, side by side. Give them a week and tell me which one was the the favorite. Then cross it to the worked lines that you already know that worked and try those in the same matter, then continue to do the work until you have the perfect medicine.
For me, it was being a care giver that really got me to understand how important it is to buy seeds from reputable people, just like CSI for example. Often patients have tried cultivars before and it’s easier to follow those leads when you deal with honest breeders.
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i get it dude. like someone mass copying the mona lisa and saying “hey check out what i got/did” and then charging admission.
they do have a market. a lot of growers aren’t willing to look at lineage or care about it. they wanna grow seeds with training wheels (fems) and act like master-grow rockstars on tiktok for their bros.
let them. that’s why people like us have this forum.
this is the way.
hey zephyr
i did post that list. right here.
come visit and sit a spell. seems a good conversation going on.
i have a copycat of bay 11 from garden of green called “cali bay dream”.
never tried garden of green til this year. i have their version of candyland in the outside garden. looks great. was a really healthy plant the entire grow. throwing some nice flowers now.
i honestly haven’t smoked enough purple and non purple to formulate an opinion on that. though i will say that purple punch is one of my favorites (so far) of stuff i have grown out. you gotta understand, i took like 30yrs off away from ganj for work and when my kids were little. when i stopped there was skunk and northern lights was coming around. the rest was that mexican crapweed full of seeds. (unless you knew people with boats that sail thru the carribean… then you could get some exotic sh*t… jamaican, panamanian, columbian)
starting this 3yrs ago i felt like the frozen caveman woken up in modern times. so much to learn! there are seedbanks online? you can buy seeds online? there are legal states? fem seeds? wtf are fem seeds? autos? wtf are autos? so MANY strain names. so many breeders. it was mind boggling.
back then there was no internet. there was high times magazine, sensi seedbank and lengthy jail sentences. everything was hush hush. modern times and ganj are a far cry from what they were. i’ve had to learn a LOT. and STILL do.
What a time to be alive, right!
I just made a thread about Garden of Green, I’m very impressed.
indeed.
i am super pleased with my GOG plants. they were healthy and vigorous.
i have 3 strains from them.
candyland, cali bay dream and purple haze.
already have cali bay dream and purple haze slotted for next season outdoors.
the candyland smells real nice. getting a little bit of purple hues now that the temps are dropping at night. going to try and let it go till the 15th.
never heard the chris g story. sigh just more drama to add to the drama.
is it “mendo purps” that you’re talking about, or something completely different?
(mendo purps is pretty hard to find. not sure if it’s around anymore?)
Sorry i had a spelling error there
I was talking about the GDP
Ken’s line is different than the old Humboldt line.
humboldt line? are you referring to PPD (purple panty dropper)?
i do have some of that. in fems and regs. haven’t grown either yet. on deck for next year outdoors.
@santero @SamwellBB have gdp seeds I think. @jetdro is a fellow outlaw and prob has a mom from sans seeds.
We never even knew back in the day what strain we were buying but the reason a lot of us liked purps in NorCal was that they weren’t too potent. Almost universally none of them put you on your ass, cept the rare one but that was more years later in the grape phase.
A lot of the “dank” we got were pretty unrefined hybrids, the purps were always mids in terms of a psychoactive effect. Can’t speak to their medical effects though. The “GDP” I’ve had since is much more lights out indica, like night meds.
That is of course just my experience, not saying it’s gospel.
i have 4 cuts of GDP now.
ken
shoreline
XOX
blimburn
i have complete run blimburn and shoreline. blimburn works for abuela (perfect night time meds for her. knocks her out snoring and she wakes up refreshed and alert.)
i grew out shoreline this year outside. super impressed with it. very strong. very frosty. it is still curing so have not sampled yet. looking forward.
grew kens once before but it got munched by spidermites so didn’t finish.
i started another Ken and one XOX as well (last week) to give them all their turn to see which one works best for abuela.
Just thinking about GDP hybrids Gods Gift was beloved but again more social weed. Purple Punch is commonly referred to as mids. Mac Daddy is a newer one and that stuff is heavy heavy. If it doesn’t have to be pure and the desired effect is sleep meds the Mac Daddy carries that trait.
i grew a barney’s farm PP auto last winter. i liked it. good flavor. nice relaxing high. would like to grow a reg photoperiod of it. probably better.
never tried gods gift or mac daddy. no base of reference for those.
No, not PPD.
As far as I know, thats a newer line, after GDP was made.
kind of curious how all that is working out. are you still working on that project?
they you’ve got me stumped man. you’ve got a skew to the timeline i am completely unaware of (not the first time… i’m still pretty new to the ‘lineage’ portion of it all… but DO understand the importance)
so please. fill me in with the lore of the humbold version of GDP. i am completely unaware (and intrigued).