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Man have they grown in the days I wasn’t here!!! Looks great as always!!!

It’s really nice when you can save some ph minus! :slight_smile:

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They seem to like the coco as much as rock-wool which my wallet certainly is happy with!

Thanks! :slight_smile:

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yeah the plants look very happy with it. and i bet your wallet is happy too! :slightly_smiling_face: :upside_down_face: :slightly_smiling_face:

unfortunately i’ve always had bad luck with coco so far. apparently i can only grow well with rockwool :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: .

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Perhaps you just had bad luck with the coco because i don’t do anything different from growing on rock-wool. :slight_smile:

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I must add that i grew the clones in rock-wool starting cubes prior to transplanting them. When i moved them into coco coir they already had plenty roots.

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Finally started my perpetual grow inspired my friend and very inspirational grower @tamimes who has proven this is probably the best gram per watt ratio one could desire! It takes quite a lot of plants to achieve this, so it took me a while to get dialed in. I started with 30 plants under one led armature of 250 watt. Since i still need to collect cuts, i kept the led on 24/0 but as soon as i cut 40 new clones, the lamp goes to 12/12 and will stay 12/12 the whole time. From then on i will clone from the cuts that are in the clone closet.

When the grow is in full throttle, three armatures will burn at three different heights at 250 watt per led, each lighting 30 clones in three different stages of flowering.

The cuts need nine weeks of flowering so each three weeks 30 gets harvested en 30 get added. I will grow the cuts in start cubes, because they are so convenient and i hate filling up 30 pots every three weeks. Me is lazy remember? I am hoping to harvest 15-20 grams per clone and since S.O.G. is such a hard head, that should not be too hard.

If 15 grams per plant is realized, it would mean i’d harvest (30x15=) 450 grams from 250 watts. And this every three weeks, because it is a perpetual system.

Please chime in @tamimes because i am curious about your thoughts. As you can see i am using starting cubes instead of pots. Since they are not too expensive and so convenient i think they take some work out of your hands.

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that sure gone work out ! I’m already looking forward to how it will go! :slight_smile:

have a great day

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I’ve seen it work and was aching to try it! Thank you and have a great day too!

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IME SOG does work out real well like that. Good yields and a nice variety of cannabis on hand. Only problem is it takes a lot of man hours to run a SOG. I found I was constantly cloning, pruning, or trimming.

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Yes, a bit of maintenance is necessary, that’s true! it also depends on how many m² you want to serve :slight_smile: But it’s also a lot of fun! You just need good mother plants :slight_smile:

for high productive mothers dutch bato bucckets are the best! :slight_smile: i don´t use them at the moment because they would to much clones every week,for me and the few clones i need big rockwoll cube is enough

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I can imagine it taking a lot of maintenance and this is why i try to keep it fairly moderate with ‘only’ thirty clones per lamp. In the near future this may be my only remaining tent so it’s a lickle mandatory that i make this work.

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Perhaps mothers are not needed, atm i trim my oldest rooted cuts and make new clones from them. So when i keep forty cuts, i should have enough material to supply me with 30 fresh cuts. Meaning soon as the oldest cuts have roots, i transplant them in a starting cube, trim them and make a new cut. Soon as roots come out of the starting cube those cuts are ready to be moved to the flowering table.

So far the theorie! :smiley:

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Yes, of course it works, no question about it! :slight_smile: I’ve always wanted to try it out that way, too. but it was always too uncertain for me! that’s just my personal opinion :slight_smile: it always depends on what you want to do and how much space you have. it always depends on the circumstances.

my best experiences have been with 16-25 plants per m², depending on the variety. that works really well. cuttings take root 14 vegi than into flowers :slight_smile: ja Some people would no longer call it sog.

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The plants on Coco are doing great!

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This perpetual grow can be applied to any grow room i believe, even if you have limited space. It all boils down to counting about 10-15 grams per plant. In theorie the table is the limit to the amount of plants. But i’ve chosen to start with 30 plants per led armature, this way it is still a lot of plants but not too much work.

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perpetual growing is fun ! i have done this for years! without a problem . you can apply this to any space thats sure. i meant the maintance part of the work! grow space doesnt matter for perpetual grows.

nothing wrong with having more plants to select from! :slight_smile: i like to sort them out when the cuts showing there roots.

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That works fine, i have done so exclusively and this here is my very first perpetual grow ever! The only reason i am trying this is not because i wasn’t happy with my other method, but to see if i can increase my gram per watt ratio this way. Since electricity is extremely expensive here in Holland it is very well worth the try!

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a sog with perpettual grow will lift the numbers of the yield!
isn´t it most of the time about yield. :smiley: here in germany the electricity it is also fu… expensive…

the most important in a sog is a even cannopy

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I tried sog almost perpetual, but with this current method i strictly count the plants. If they can each haul 15 grams, i will yield way more grams per watt than i ever did with sog.

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iḿ looking forward to your results!

i can hardly wait for my harvest either! i hope to break the 1g/watt limit this time in the small tent, but we’ll see… 100 watts is not really much :slight_smile:

maybe i should start thinking about building my own lamp from stripes.

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