Johnnypotseed’s 3-ring circus - with autos, photos & sex…reversals, that is! (Part 1)

Would’nt the progeny from that reversal of the S1’s make it an S2?

I was thinking about that, lol not sure, but it would be IBL also, wouldn’t it?

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Technically S1 is a made up term, it indicates the first generation of selfing. Just like an F1 is the first filial generation. If you selfed it again, it should probably be called an S2 as it would be the second selfed generation. Just like if you breed two F1 siblings it would be and F2 (second filial generation).

Traditionally, it wouldn’t be an IBL until somewhere after the 5th filial generation (F5 or above).

Also, note that selfing will cause the stacking of deleterious genes. Cannabis is an obligate outcrosser, meaning it is intended to cross with another plant not itself like corn or tomatoes.

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Thnx for setting me straight here, cuz
I appreciate it

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Your post confused me though. So you have the MAC1 (Capulator’s cut)? Or a clone of an S1. For the record, an S1 is NOT the same as the MAC1 cut.

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Well then, that’d mean I got lied to lol But it was given to me with that story so I’m not out anything

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Could go even further that F classifications should only occur once after a pairing of distinctly different lines of plants , and anything past F1 is then a hybrid “H1,H2” whatever…

Though we use the F classifications as its common to denote whats what in our hobby.

S2 would work though.

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Ok, I was aware that MAC1 stood for Miracle Alien Cookies Capulator’s cut but the rest I was sure of
he was the breeder from the west coast that originally did the cross?

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i also forget but there is i think an issue with MAC’s where with selfing they definitely dont come out like the original and go all mutant, but i forget the specifics though cap has posted about that over on his forum “beanbasement”

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lol now I’m wondering, if this is a MAC1, just what type lol
I’ll just have to ask a bit more of the fella I got it from

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An S1 wouldn’t be a clone of the original MAC1, correct? It would just be a continuation, so still MAC1

To be n S1, there’d have to be a reversal of a clone and bred to another, right?

I would think if it was just a clone of a clone, then it would still be just MAC with maybe ‘gen 2 or 3’ after

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An S1 would be a clone of MAC1 hit with pollen from a reversed MAC1 clone. This would be a MAC1 S1 and not the same as the MAC1 clone.

Confused enough yet?

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lol I’m not confused now, but I think the fella I got it from mighta been lol

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If you read the edit on the post above, you’ll see I said the same thing lol

that or a plant that is reversed that pollinates itself and produces seeds, though clone and reverse one is cleaner.

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Yep lol now I’m sure i need to question him a bit more

Sooo I have a Mac 1s1h3f2x Mac1 f4iblh6 does this make it a r2?:crazy_face::crazy_face:

I think you’ve got is a mess, is what ya got cuz lol

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No… its an R2D2… cause you’ll never understand it! :rofl:

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Yeah totally got lost throughout that conversation of determining what is what

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