Landrace Expansion & Trade

This is pretty much exactly what we do for full season plants outdoors. While one round is finishing in the greenhouses, we have others vegging outside in full sun. Then when the greenhouse plants are finished, we take the ones vegging outside in fabric pots, and just set them on the beds. Sometimes we will dig them down a few inches, but the roots go right through into the bed soil. :+1:

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Quick up date on the @lefthandseeds triple Durban, dropped 3 lost one as a runt, had to help other two off with the helmets. This is probably on me as I’m still learning the seed germination game. Other two are strong and healthy looking like twins. Great lateral branching and close nodes with only light training, topped once to finish in 3 gallon pots. Hoping both will sex others are circa 70’s seeds and a lone Vietnamese black for the gene pool.

females while I have time to put one outside to give both representations for you.

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I dream of that. The tropicals don’t like our cold nights. The Indicas don’t like our damp nights. Heavy dew as if it rained almost every morning. I’ve been taking them in for those reasons really. Just these past couple years. Before that, if it needed help to grow here, I didnt mess with it. ? I love the idea of stacking one container on top of the other, but I have height restrictions for security reasons. When it’s legal you better believe I’ll do that. In the meantime I’ll use the butter knife idea. Hopefully I can manage them in smaller containers this year. I finally found all the ingredients for my soil recipe, except for feather meal, which I used cottonseed meal as a substitute for. I’m hoping that with the improved soil mix, and holding off on putting them in the 5-gallon containers so early, I’ll have better luck with those small containers. I used to go from 1 gallon to 5 gallon. This year I have a whole bunch of 2 gallon, and 3 gallon if necessary. I think with more frequent transplants I’ll be able to manage the size of the plants, and I won’t get plants with that unhappy look. Soon I hope to have a bunch of small fabric pots as well!

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I like this idea! I suspect burlap would be a tenth the price. Probably work just as well.

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Definitely, just got my new computer.

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We still doing the X-Mas Mexican Mash Up. Just received a few jewels for the cause:
10- Bodhi Acapulco Gold
3- CBG Chapata Michoacan
2- Zacasteca Tribute Ace

Misc.
2- Bodhi Aluna
3- 707 Pineapple Thai (the pollen I send out to replace Beldia)
5- cuts Grape Romulan

What if everyone collected and traded male pollen for multi crosses? Along with seed repopulation.

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That would be cool. A round of Mexican hybrids. It’s a narrow window though, so whoever is the earliest might only be a giver. We’ll have to make sure they get a bunch of seeds too.

I might break out some (now discontinued) eldorado from nirvana. Possibly the cryptic labs guerrero or Oaxaca. Or maybe bodhi zipolite.

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Are we limiting it to Mexicans. Some Central Americans might be nice. Took a little tester off the Panama, nice sour strawberry aftertaste and creeper buz.

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Did you ever get Moroccan pollen? I have some now, and for two more weeks at least. One has visible resin on his balls.( pretty sure it is. Couldn’t find magnifying glass. ) They have had an amazing month. From near death and 3 inches to nearly 3 feet in height! I’m really really liking them now. The leaves have no issues( so far ) with fungus, unlike the Lebanese I grew. And water them… or don’t. They don’t care. Females are putting out pistils now. Be ready for pollination in a week or two. Males are only 20 feet away, so some pollination may be happening already, tho I’ve been eating the pods that are ready to open before they do in most cases. Quite tasty. Different flavors between the two. One has purple flowers, and one more green. Anyway, Goroka × Beldia sounds very interesting indeed!

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These are the Beldia I almost killed. Great plants! Trying to learn how to edit a picture. I would like to be able to screen write on a picture. I have a phone only. No i phone. 100 dollar Samsung galaxy.

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That’s so funny. I do the same thing. Especially with lower female preflowers and petioles.

Also, would definitely be interested in some Beldia pollen. I can collect some Goroka for you right now and have it on the way next week.

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Sweet! I’ll do the same😁. I can’t think of two sativa landrace’s that are more different from each other. Could be a great cross! ? Have you found that the tastes correlate to the potency? Or that a certain taste translates into the flavor of the finished product?

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Inside of one line, yes you could normally correlate certain genes to certain plants, because the closer the genes physically are in the strand, the more likely they will be inherited together. Like breaking a big ass LEGO tower, the blocks closest together have the lowest chance of being separated.

So for instance I have heard that a ton of CBD lines all have an orange flavor, because they were all derived from the same original batch of CBD plants. If you try extrapolating that to other lines you might find that the orange flavors tend to show up with high THC, or with some other trait altogether.

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No man I lost the purple pheno pollen to my bad practices. Glad you caiught a male and didn’t cull him. I did include a bundle of Pineapple Thai Pollen from Trower tripper For all who asked for the Beldia and those frosty seeds we talked about.

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Hey it happens. I don’t think many of us are experts in pollen preservation. Pollen elimination, maybe😉. Do you want some beldia pollen? I was thinking of transportation methods, and I think these small seed containers would work well…with maybe a few dry rice grains…? What did you use? (upload://yAB0ItunFdEMoLtlpKxcKvXqh5o.jpeg)

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I dry mine out really good in a dessicator and then put it in some mini ziplocks. Then I usually put that into a heat seal bag.

If you don’t use hard packing materials, you can easily send it with a stamp in an envelope. Mail rollers won’t do shit to it, so it’s all good.

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Good tip using a regular envelope . Do you put any air inside the mini ziplock? What do you use as a desiccant? Do you just throw some rice in a dish with it or something? I’ve left mine in a dish, probably for almost a week or so, but I couldn’t say how much of it was viable. I had a ton of pollen grains so there was good pollination with it but this is the oldest I’ve ever used…

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I’ve mentioned it elsewhere on the boards before, but my method is to use a $15 “closet dehumidifier” in a sterile tote that has a sealing gasket (you can find them at target).

The totes look like this:

I also put in one of these cheap sensors:

Collect pollen into trays, and then seal it into the box. You can watch the humidity drop for a couple days. When it gets below %15 (I’ve gotten as low as 9% after a fresh recharge of the dehumidifier), then you can pack it up. As long as it stays sealed, it will keep for a while and if you want long term storage, just put it in the freezer.

I have also kept pollen inside the box viable for 9 months. So it’s great for preserving pollen between several grows.

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