Yoooo hey you are here to tell me more about the philosophy of science by reciting some hegel? Ohhh color me impressed that he knows so much about science. Or… wait that’s not true! The woo life spirit? really?
Your ignorance at least brings me mirth.
ok good! explain to me now, how science claims to know absolute truths is that what you said? And I said that it can only falsify things and never prove it right?
All I said was that, despite the fact that I, like you, operate under the assumption that science and scientific discoveries are real and “true”, science can technically neither falsify or confirm anything any more than any other belief system as science is rooted in the belief that we can trust our own observations to be objectively “true”
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ok great! So by that logic I cannot falsify the theory I can fly by flapping my arms? because nothing can be falsified? Despite my sensation of falling and the chipped teeth I could get from… doing things like that perhaps? I still can’t falsify it?
It depends on how you define “falsified”
false as in “can I fly by flapping my arms as fast as I can?” and the answer is “false”.
No, the answer is technically: “in the moment when i attempted to fly I perceived my own inability to”
There’s no way to know if you really did fly or not, and there’s certainly no way to know if the fact you weren’t able to fly at the moment you tested it would still be true as of this moment.
This isn’t a great way to live life so we all live with the assumptions we have to make to exist but, that’s all your test really tells you.
so when I try it and I chip my teeth by I actually believing I could fly… then what? I imagined I chipped them when I fell?
Not sure what this means sorry.
ok so I really believe I can fly right?
So if I really didn’t “percieve” my inability to fly, sort of like a child born unable to feel pain, then I would be able to fly and wouldn’t fall on my face when I tried, just like the child unable to feel pain wouldn’t get injured? Or the child unable to feel pain is in serious trouble from a medical condition that can result in their death if they don’t feel that injury they got while hiking/biking/etc?
Were these rhetorical questions?
no this is logic. The child unable to feel pain is the equivalent of me not feeling I was falling when I closed my eyes and believed I could fly. Objective reality takes over, and the guy who believes he can fly and the kid who can’t feel pain both have an objective reality outside their perception that can be falsified.
Human perception is actually not counted in science as proof. Due to it’s dubious nature.
Well, ok, in that case - to extend your child metaphor: He could also ‘die’ from blood loss and then once ‘dead’ realize he was actually just playing an immersive VR video game where he was playing a child who couldn’t feel pain. 
There’s no way to say the reality we test and experience is the ‘real’ reality.
I think what makes you happy. I try and not judge people. Things could be a lot worse. I don’t believe in forcing religion on anyone. Just slow down.
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To much for me. I liked the topic. I look at it this way. I would worry about what is inside of you. I wouldn’t worry if someone believes in life after death. I believe. Because I want to. Joe has a point.
hmm that’s how you avoid simple logic?
| Cartman | [still lost] No, you guys. This is virtual reality. |
|---|---|
| Stan | How do you know? |
| Cartman | Because… I’m a computer program. |
So you want to skate on answering the question on if there is actually an objective reality? or what?
If a child is in need why wait till Christmas. We never learn. I want to say so much on this. I have typed so many things. Be happy with you and your family.
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Reducing suffering is the key objective. I know that realistically not all suffering can be eliminated as it’s a cold hard fact we have to suffer to live. Systems of abuse piss me off.
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I agree 
. I see it every day. We are blessed. And we don’t recognize it. We worked like hell for that damn paycheck on Friday though. We make sure that we are in church on Sunday or at least dress up like we went to church. I give up on organized religion a long time ago. I don’t go to church it freaks me out.
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