I think you are unable to imagine what would happen to reality if you were no longer in it. Would it cease to exist? no. If the entire human race or our entire solar system were destroyed, including every living being in the universe reality would continue to exist without the need for someone to observe it. Do you imagine reality needs you to observe it for it to be real?
Please enlighten me on how you can possibly come to this conclusion logically.
And, fwiw, I agree with you!! But, itās a belief I hold.
ok I can demonstrate there is a reality that is not actually part of your perception and reality is not what you perceive, but something completely separate. Is that something we can agree on?
Iāll admit, I havenāt been reading closely anymore; but it seems like you are the one defending this point no? That mankind and our ability to test and examine reality is what makes it real? Honest question.
In my eyes the original point of the topic was to here what other people think happens in the afterlife. With the constraints we have; can not answer this. We can only THINK, Joe. Why are you policing peopleās thoughts? Yet if anyone dares to do the same to you, you bat it aside like they are some sort of uniformed subhuman? This elitist nonsense is what people have been pointing out to you, and what made me completely lose interest in reading what you say in this topic.
A lot of us subhumans even agree with you, and would chat with you on a friendly level if youād open your dialogue up a bit more. Religious tend to offer a lot of emptiness. Philosophy offers a lot of high-thinking nonsense. If your opinion is itās a waste of time thinking about it though; why the fuck are you here?
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why am I here? Hey now weāre talking! Iām really interested in how or why people wonāt try to falsify reality and extract knowledge. The observation by max planck that people will die believing what they believe instead of checking with evidence to see if itās false. mmm now thatās some juicy thought knowledge. I canāt extract that from my own brain so I perform the task I call ābrain parasiteā where I extract the answers from your brain. Whoever answers any question on this thread I am extracting the answers I need from your postings. Itās who I am.
On this point we agree
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Thatās what baffles me. You know people will not change. So why converse? This is why I gave up conversing with you. There is no evidence that will change a made mind.
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Itās because of that fact, I have to examine the thought patterns. I also have to detach myself from emotional responses like if someone attacks like calls me names and stuff or tries to pretend Iām crazy. Emotional pleas like the stories about dead mothers and stuff. Itās less about who you are as opposed to the reality your mind inhabits. Thatās the thing I am exploring. Along the way I kick over rocks to see what is underneath. Each response given to every question askedā¦ like a computer game where I am rewarded by gathering information. I level up.
Life really is too shortā¦
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ā¦what? So you see a place where people thought it would be fun to discuss, and you thought it would be fun to antagonize them. Doesnāt that make you an asshole? No, no, because science?
This isnāt science. This is just a chat, buddy. When talking to other people it isnāt demanded that we uphold the rigors of the scientific method. Itās just not how the world works, in my short experience.
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Iām sure there are researchers who think what they are doing is pure science for scienceās sake. In reality their funding comes from somewhere. That somewhere is from people with agendas.
I wonder what joeās agenda is. Wait, scratch that, I already know.
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Iām trying to give him a chance to explain it another way, but heās making it hard.
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What is dark matter? We can not see it, it does not impact the world we live in. Only on the galactic scale can it be seen. It is almost like it is another dimension. Could we be reincorporated into the galactic soup but in a different plane of existence? Why not?
While not death related I had an experience that defies explanation. In the middle of the afternoon and no drugs or alcohol involved. It caused me to leave open the door that there may be more to our consciousness than we understand at the moment. Mind you, we really do not understand consciousness yet.
Iām about 40-80 post behind , maybe more. But I canāt read to much of this stuff at once.
Itās nice every few days for a little insight into the minds of the overgrow community 
But itās a question that does carry a little fear with it , the unknown. The after life question.
With my reply, I think it says I am definitly curious , and entertaining the curiosity ā¦ I dont have any pre existing belief system surrounding the topicā¦I
I wasnt Raised to believe anything and I never put the time in to go down that rabbit hole. . . I guess part of me would like to believe in some form of reincarnation . . .to me itās nothing we can change so i donāt bother over thinking itā¦
For now I will continue devilling into all your minds and discussions and maybe choosing which one I like best.
Corey got this thread going ! hot topic
exploring your reality is offensive? Itās not offensive to me, you are welcome to it. Ask me any question, I donāt mind.
for sure you definitely said it right. Itās like flying through space on a big acid trip you can just say it defies explanation and thatās cool. Itās when someone makes claims like I donāt know what did it so aliens/god/bigfoot was involved, just defies rational thought.
No one is offended by exploring. You end up closing out anyone else who is exploring with your idea of exploring, dig? Thatās all I am going to say. Iām out of breath.
I donāt know if youāre just not getting it or you have to feel persecuted.
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actually what I am doing with that is posing a logic or rational question and seeing how the frame of your/their reality smacks against it.
My background is electronics with mechanical thrown in. I worked in a test lab, did some engineering, resume made me sound really smart (more like I worked hard at it), I am very much a āgive me the evidenceā kind of guy. But I also can entertain things that I can not explain. Must have been the sci-fi that I consumed that makes me think out of the box.
Of course all of us had deja-vu experiences having us question ourselves and life. I used to be like, āOh, here comes another one.ā, not that they did me any good. But I met someone for the first time and locked eyes on hers and we stared at each other for what normally would have been an uncomfortably long time (meanwhile the woman that introduced us just kept on yapping and did not even notice the two of us). It was like I fell into a well, flying down and then stopping at the bottom and I met someone there that was not expecting me. Eventually I broke off the gaze as I did not want the other woman to think something strange (just being polite). Afterward I said I would come back around to talk to her that night.
In the end I learned somethings about her that there was no way I could ever know. Details that I found out talking to a mutual friend years later. No point me getting into any more details but there is nothing I know that can come up with an answer to what happened.
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You can easily repeat that experience by looking into someone elseās eyes?