Life after Death?

I kind of like bishop Berkely’s philosophy…reality is Gods dream…
None of this is real.

Schrödinger’s God

Just depends on where you stop the buck. While I tend to agree with you one could also easily make the argument that any evidence we collect must be discounted because there’s no guarantee that the future resembles the past. So maybe today we don’t know what’s in the box tomorrow maybe we will gain xray vision and be able to see directly into the box and inside we might find heaven where all our souls depart after our time on earth. Then, to extend the metaphor, the next day we look in the box and all we see is the murky darkness of nothingness. In the end there is no logical stance one can take besides agnosticism imo.

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There’s potential that this universe is of intelligent design but I don’t believe it to be by any god humans thought up nor would I believe such an entity(or entities) to be omnipotent. In my opinion, it’s more likely that reincarnation is a thing and the transitional period between death and the next life is something we likely never grasp/understand. I also accept the possibility that there is no life after death and you just go back to the void from whence our consciousness arose :man_shrugging:t4:

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You can’t ever see inside the box, it’s in an unreachable dimension. All you know, is someone claimed the box is real. Now, what’s inside?

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I’ll never be able to say because my status of not being able to see into the box or even further, the boxes existence in reality at all is impossible to confirm or deny both now and in the future. We can only exist on the plane of reality that we accept as “real” enough for ourselves.

yes, but don’t you see that anyone who claims they know what is inside the box can’t ever be right? So that means the box and what is inside don’t even matter. Just like the infinite claims of an after life.

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If the box is not full of weed, then you’re wrong.

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I don’t think somethings lack of tangible existence defines if it matters or not. Santa doesn’t exist but he sure as hell matters to millions of kids around the world. The disconnect for me is where you draw the parallel between something mattering and it’s actual existence. In the end belief is equal to reality because reality is just another way of saying belief.

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Technically, Santa doesn’t matter to them; their belief in Santa and the fact that their parents keep giving them presents and deceiving them well enough that they believe they come from Santa matters to them. I can believe I can fly all I want, but if I jump off my roof I’m gonna end up with something broken. None of us are Peter Pan, and this isn’t Neverland…

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I totally agree! I’d just extend that to say there’s no way to know if tomorrow you wake up and gravity still applies to you. In the end everything is just belief. Like I said above “belief is equal to reality because reality is just another way of saying belief.”

In my early 20s I had a “mishap” while out clubbing. Took a ecstasy in capsule form. Obviously it had more than MDMA in it. I collapsed in the middle of the nightclub. Got rushed to hospital where I flatlined several times. Somehow they managed to keep me alive and when I woke up several hours later my ENTIRE family were stood around my hospital bed. The hospital had rang my mother and told her they didn’t think I was gonna make it. Needless to say it was a massive awakening for me to change my lifestyle. I don’t remember a thing from when I passed out to when I woke up. Stupid times :roll_eyes:

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at best, it’ll be like before I was born.

why worry? no one is going to survive this life anyway.

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I suppose not, ontologically speaking. I’d still bet you all my money that gravity will still apply to both of us tomorrow, though I suspect you wouldn’t take that bet and wouldn’t pay if you did. :wink:

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You’re right for sure on that one for sure :sweat_smile: ! I, like you, chose to subscribe to belief in the world as governed by the axioms of science. Otherwise I’d just have to stay in bed all day lol

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Luckily, keeping an open mind to the possibility that gravity might not work tomorrow is one of the axioms of science, really… since no theory can ever be disproven, only shown to have not been successfully proven yet. :stuck_out_tongue: Likewise, keeping an open mind about the supernatural, imo. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna lose any sleep over neglecting to hang a horseshoe over my door to repel evil spirits, though.

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you can test things and see if they are real. If you cannot test them, they are not real. Reality is evidence based and it certainly matters. When I told my parents santa wasn’t real and they insisted he was, I knew they were so full of shit.

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I’m going to amicably disagree with your definition of reality then :+1:

so your reality can’t be tested and anything can happen or be real?

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That’s not exactly what I said. :slightly_smiling_face:

I will say, any reality taken as hard truth based on only reviewing results from tests like you are arguing for ignores the inherent building blocks of what makes up an epistemic reality.