Actually @Cormoran has a point on that,Just because I can see issues in my leaf,Turning Brown for example,It doesn’t mean It s the deficiency I was thinking about based on my eyesight.
You don’t really think that I go around on a daily basis questioning my senses, do you? I’m talking about philosophy. I used the word “ontologically” multiple times in this thread.
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I often forget us stoners all talk about utter shite 
Philosophy is way beyond my way of thinking. I just remember falling and thinking to myself “fuck. Game over” but luckily I’m still here to tell my tale. No I didn’t see my life flash before me like people talk about. I felt huge amounts of pain but also total relief I was still breathing. The fentanyl they gave me to pop my shoulder back in was like I’d died and went to heaven though I do admit 
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Shit that must have hurt
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Huge amounts. My shoulder was under my chin
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you can test for the deficiency, I assure you. Then figure it out! If you can’t test this reality, then you could never figure something out.
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That was the most shit example I could find AhHahah since I am Always dealing with issues 
When it comes to reality claims, then yes. It must be tested or else anything is real and that means nothing is real.
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True,that Is a point in Nihilism
God damn (no pun intended), I declare @JoeCrowe my personal oracle to follow blindly with faith. 
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lol that’s the only thing I can really ask… don’t follow me with blind faith. Test reality!
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For the sake of this question, our reality has to be taken out of question. Unfortunately people well rooted in hard sciences (you know, a lot of smart people) simply will not entertain the idea of a reality other than our own.
I don’t claim to understand it, or want to believe it is true, but it’s potentially there. So for the sake of curiosity I’m happy to think about what it would be like. I spend plenty of time thinking of dumber shit. Where’s the harm? The harm is in fighting over whose existence or lack there of is right.
If humans are as old, yet insignificant as our science says, we have so much to learn still. If an afterlife is part of that, it would be cool. Honestly just as much proof for God as aliens, and I’m not sure which would be weirder… are we in the Medical Club? Weird place for this.
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Could not agree more. This is the point @JoeCrowe was totally missing. There’s absolutely no way to know for sure if the reality we experience is true or if our observations are at all meaningful.
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I live in a pretty religious area and on Sunday my quite town turns into a highway as everyone drives to church lol. Most of them are going because there’s this idea that you have to or you won’t go to the heavens or whatever?
Think about the effect something like that on such a massive scale plays on the environment for example. So to say no harm can come from it is wrong in my opinion.
It’s not even something id argue because to be honest it’s very clearly dying out in the new generations which to me says people are learning to think for themselves
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Well, you have an issue with a lot of things then. People shouldn’t travel anywhere, right?
I’m not speaking of organized religion. The have, undeniably, caused damage and great harm. Simply an acceptance that you can not know. You can only guess. Educatedly hopefully, but still a guess. That’s all I’m saying.
But honestly? The dying out I see? Is in organized religion, in having to go to church and be accountable. Lots of people are turning to neo-paganism. Just another guess. Equally as valid.
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The inquisition. These are the kinds of thing perpetrated by “believers” in something.
I am known as a human who lacks belief, and sees a moral decision as one that creates the least amount of suffering.
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I’m a diagnostic, i believe in science… mostly 
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Lets face it, as soon as we became self aware as a species we ran into trouble. Our ego dictates that there must be more to life than - one day your here, the next your gone and nothing much mattered in the end anyway. Cults of all kinds have tried to control us for thousands of years. They ALL thought they were the true faith.
It’s just as lightly they were all wrong. I prefer a quantum entanglement discussion anyway. I’m biased though being a diagnostic 
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