Yep! Nailed it! That was me in the recent past! Good call!
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Glad youāre back and well again. Sometimes a bit of time is necessary 
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Well been a while since I been here and I started the threads but at the moment Iām struggling. Many thanks to @Jellypowered and @michigreen for their ears today. Helped massively. as much as I feel like giving up right now they showed me I gotta be strong for the mini me.
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A saying from the native people that has resonated with me for my entire life.
Kia kaha! Stay strong!
Everyone here is proud of you for speaking up brother. It is the first step you must take for your journey.
Much love from New Zealand 
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Hell yes. I am proud to know this 
@anon58740919 guy. 
if you ask nice heāll be gentler 
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Here in NZ we have the highest suicide rate for teens in the entire developed world. Last year among young and old we had the highest suicide rate since records began. Your mental health is as important as your physical health! I believe speaking up is the most important thing you can do, I am immensely proud of you brother.
As men culturally we have been told to āman up!ā and not talk about our feelings. Because of this a lot of us donāt know how to process feelings & have emotionally disassociated. It is very important to talk about and bring up mental health, especially as men. Talk to your friends! Talk to your family! No one will ever judge you for opening up about how you feel. A lot of people care about & love you.
Check on your mates! Speak up!
Kia kaha!
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Very eloquent! Nicely written!
@anon58740919 ((hugs))
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My daily struggle too. Had 4 more hours of fun with the lovely cfs idiots today. (Surprise visit, plus they visited the kiddo in school).
Father with custody - always a battle. Its 2am, I cant get to sleep, anxiety over the upcoming months fun thatās starting anewā¦ And need to break in a new lawyer tooā¦ Oh the joy.
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You donāt have to struggle alone. Know that brother. At the moment weāre still living together. Iām gonna save a bit more and buy a canal boat. (Economical living being a necessity) Do what we need to do to make it good for little man. Thereās so much to try and get my head round Iām practically spinning. Anyway if thereās anything I can do to help you just shout up. And keep strong for your kidda
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Thank you. Thereās never any shame in struggling. We all do at some point. Imo addressing it head on and out loud is Manning up. And trying to make a positive from it can never be a bad thing either. Loving the Kia kaha too keep kinda chanting it to myself 
Appreciate the kind words brother 
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Exactly brother. Confronting mental health is very very important now days. Sometimes speaking up on a Cannabis forum to random people can be more beneficial than talking to someone you know 
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Here is a Maori folk song you may enjoy as well, - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdNbBgGoRvs
Here is the translation - Tutira mai nga iwi - MÄori Song - Waiata
Kia kaha!
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Spot on. Mates are there for pisstaking Iād expect nothing less gonna play the Maori track now and see what funny looks I get 
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Hahahaha
I regularly use the emdr/bilateral stimulation videos when i feel like im going to loose my marblesā¦ Inevitably i end up blasting it full volume without my bluetooth headphones somewhere totally inappropriate later that day. And it always guarantees the strangest looks because of the funny rhythm and beats.
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āEDMONTON ā A person fatally shot themselves on the front steps of the Alberta Legislature in Edmonton, forcing the early adjournment of Mondayās session.ā
Pretty sure I know who this wasā¦ Was talking to him last night, because he wasnāt in a good head space. Was headed to edmonton to see his son for his āChristmas visitā and now heās not respondingā¦
I have to askā¦ At what point is this āno media coverage for suicidesā not ok? When i was in PTSD support group - 3 government workers worked in the agencies where suicides happen regularly (mep, wcb specifically - the guys who enforce child support, and workers comp) 3 different suicides witnessed. No media. Not allowed. MEP and WCB misdeeds are not discussed on the news unless someones managed to sue them and win (so decades and millions later). Even on FB they prune discussion on these topics.
When is the gag order and refusal to allow discussion causing more deaths than it prevents?
And reminder - thereās always someone to talk toā¦
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I believe that the vast majority of suicide in men aged 35-65 is not due to mental illness, it is due to them not being crazy enough to live in a world that really couldnāt care less about them.
Talk is cheap and doesnāt accomplish anything these days. People say one thing and then do another. How many middle-aged men can honestly say they have someone they can confide in about anything? This is a rhetorical question.
Therapists, counselors, doctors etc. are always looking for a diagnosis; what mental illness is causing this problem and what drugs can be used to fix it? This either alienates the man even more (because he knows there is nothing wrong with him) or it creates a drug dependency. Both are just the next steps toward suicide.
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ā¦Ay carambaā¦ 
pandoraās box ā¦can oāworms
Thereās alot there. 
Iām not disputatiousā¦just confident thereās additional complexity, & as in nearly everything, experiences arenāt identical. Shared experience is essential for communicating/understanding.
And then there was Overgrowā¦
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For some men, I am sure it is simple logic that drives them to suicide. They come to realize that their only purpose in life is to make as much money as possible to satisfy the āneedsā of those who depend on them. Then it becomes clear that the man is worth more money dead than he is alive. The logic becomes crystal clear, and since the man is now devoid of emotion after so many years of ātrainingāā¦ wellā¦ we know what happens.
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Weāre not logical. Iāll argue about that part. 
Thatās why Spock is so fān badass. 
āThere is no universal agreement as to the exact scope and subject matter of logicā¦ā so sayeth the Pedia of Wiki
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For my philosophy degree, I was required to take at least one course in logic. While the scope and subject matter of logic may not be universally accepted, its rules and application are straightforward and widely accepted by those with even an average intellect.
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Well, my mans ex girlfriend died on xmas eve. I have some really weird feelings about it. She was a big point of contention between us in the beginning of our relationship like 6 years ago. Really strange and weird for me seeing him post pics and everyone sending him condolences etc on social media. Really canāt describe how it feels cuz itās so weird. Iām sad that he lost an old friend, but Iām also weirded out cuz now the ex is somehow a martyr. Itās interesting to see everyone rally around him, all the calls, texts and messages. Itās nice, but in 2 weeks everyone will go back to their lives and I will be left to pick up his broken pieces. I probably sound like a complete asshole, but itās just a weird situation that I really donāt know how to handle or how I should feel about it.
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