Mosca Frosted Raspberries

From the literature: We’ve taken our Raspberry Boogie Mother and dusted her with Cap’s famous Mac#11 male.
This was an example of why you do NOT peruse seed banks with a few too many beers in you, but the purchase was made…
I had been drooling over Capulator’s creations for years, so that’s why I jumped on it.
The plan is to cross these with Romulan’s Berning Cap down the line.
The germination seemed to be OK, but only getting 6 out of 13 beans above ground was disappointing to say the least.
I did complain to DC Seed Exchange about this and they were way too generous in trying to make things right; I haven’t heard anything back from Mosca and Co.
Of the 6 that found their way above ground:
Germed seeds went into coco plugs under a dome.
Seed to solo cups under floros - 1 month to the day.
Seeds to enough biomass to take clones - 8 weeks.
I do have to say that cloning these has been more than average as far as success.
Seeds to flower - 9 weeks.
This is where I screwed up…
We are still in 1 gallon pots, and that IS a problem.
It took me 11 days into flower to get around to up potting into 5 gal pots.
Whether the genetics have a habit of staying short, or me keeping them rootbound in 1 gal pots, there has not been any noticeable stretch.
Let’s give it a couple of weeks to see.
Potato picture is the 4 F plants at F09 jammed in my 2x4.
Future crappy picture will be of my tragically underutilized 5x5 with way too few plants flowering.



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I’m in! Looks like some cool genes.

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Looks good! Love Mosca gear!

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that is a relative new strain – will be watching

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I been eyeing this cross for a while! Haha
Anything with raspberry boogie I’m interested in.
I have a clip/gif of a bud somewhere, beautiful stuff… I’ll try to post it here :v:

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I think I recall a box released that had 3 or 4 out crosses a couple of months back.

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Looks good. Sounds very delicious.

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F16
16 inches from dirt,
Finally 5 gallon pots are saturated.
Bud sets are totally set.
No nutes yet because Ocean Forest.
Fish Sh!t, New Millennium Fluvic, power Si, Budswell, GO Bio Root, GO CalMag+
…The sets/cottonballs on # 4 are noticeably “stringier”
Fan leaves are a bit droopier than I would like, but they did just get drowned; call it a stress test…






Yeah, there’s gonna be a lot of tops.
-I did only top these once, but the top 3 pairs of branches have all been trussed, or pulled down, in an attempt (somewhat successful) to keep the growing tips as even as possible.
Topped around node 9 or 10; top taken as a clone along with some lower branches for propagation.
As with all maintenance on this grow, this should have been done 2 weeks prior to when I actually did the training.
I’ll be resisting getting my mits in there for a week if I can help myself.
…There are still way too many bud sites that need nipping and fan leaves in the center that need clearing out.
I can find plenty of details about the Raspberry Boogie mother, but MAC #11 is being a bit difficult to get details on.
The Raspberry Boogie details show these wonderful, fat buds at day 56, but being that we’ve used up 25% of those days I do not see that happening.
Being old school, a 90 day flower is fine with me.
Oh yeah, clones are ready for dirt/media at 3 weeks using coco plugs in a domed tray. Took 5 each for propagation and torture tests.
Clones look to be 90+% success which I credit to taking them in the fall/winter where there is much better temperature/RH control than Spring/Summer.

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Looking really good, lots of bud sites gonna be a good crop :+1:

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F19
No pics worth loading…
Couldn’t keep my hands off them…
Went in and deflowered them…well, not in a porn way you dirty sumabitches :rofl:
I went in and nipped off most of the flower sets that are not receiving direct light.
Most of the lower fans are left as nute reservoirs or issue indicators.
Middle fans cleared out for air flow.
Top fans removed when they block growing tips.
This works great with 4-6 plants; I can’t imagine picking all the little bits off if you are running more plants.
My usual rule would be to pick off all bud sets below the “hang loose” :call_me_hand: from the canopy.
I’ld rather bin the little bits now than futz with the larf
A little over 2 weeks and the smell I get off the the work is a smoky umami Earthy scent.
Absolutely no sticky at this point working this cultivar.

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Flower week 3
F21 - no real smells yet; even from stem rubs.
There is a lot more consistency in these than I would expect from an F1 with 2 divergent parents; the F2 should be interesting.
That being said, physical differences exist: FR6 is a man spreader, while FR4 is like a bouquet of flowers.
We are almost 90 days since cracking the seeds, and this is a short, non stretching strain compared with a lot of the 2x or 3x strains out there.
Just started a light dose of flower nutes yesterday because Ocean Forest.
Even though these are shorties, they are thirsty, as they are drinking as much as the TG GG4 RIL i ran last year while being 1/3 their biomass/size.
…Could be due to lower humidity and temps, or they are just rooting and drinking like crazy underground.
No fan leaf removal lately, as the branches took very nicely to the LST spread with the foam wrapped wire…I totally endorse that product, and while I found the grommets in the AC Infinity fabric pots to be a gimmick, they are making life easier and they are a time saver.
The only changes since last pictures was to do more LST to keep the plants guessing where is my top by pulling down, well, the tops.
The 5x5 Tent:


FR1:

FR2:

FR 4 (the bouquet)

FR6 (The man spreader)

FR3 and FR5 were male and culled.
Being that this is Gen 1 from seed, and everything was really healthy, the clones from all 6 plants are doing very well.
If anyone has run these Mosca Frosted Raspberry plants I would love to hear your experience with this cultivar.

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F34 Standing a statuesque 18 whole inches.
Nice funky aromas are setting in.
Buds are a bit thicker than my thumb.
Continuous low VPD pressure has them drinking like plants 3 times their size.
Not a single leaf tip burned.
Gonna have to up my feeding to every other water rather than every third.
Either halfway there or a third of the way.
…Mosca says 60-63. I’m hoping longer cause these really need to fill out.
FR1:


FR2:

FR4: with long grey hair for scale…

FR:6
This one stretched, so the top 6 branches got trussed horizontally.
…looking kinda thin right now, but the club potential is there.

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F40
TL:DR General Organics - I did not pH correct and had good results.
Dear diary, today I ramped light up to 100%.
At 80%, the fixture was landing ~800 PAR on the canopy, now we are at 900.
…2 feet above canopy; I might drop the light just a bit.
No CO2; I think CO2 in a tent that runs exhaust 16 hours a day is impossible, but that is one man’s opinion…
…Well that and I spend most of my day in the lung room, and I don’t think elevated CO2 levels would be great for my health…
The BIG difference from my last couple of grows:
I use General Organics nutrients, and they drop pH into the low 5s from my city water that runs in the 8s.
For the last couple of years I have been pH correcting which had me putting PILES of pH up into my 5 gal bucket that I use to feed.
…I mean like 15-25 ml per bucket…
This time around I’ve gone back to not correcting on the nute feed, just the tea feed in-between, and everything looks deep green healthy fantastic!
Back in 2015 when I got back into this after a bust in the late 90s, I didn’t own a pH pen, followed the Go Box instructions, and had nice, healthy , lush plants.
The reefer was only OK because genetics, but a shout out to Good Hope Hydroponics in DC for the jump start with their cloning class!
All that being said, I just over watered/fed the 5 gal fabric pots with 1.25 gals of nute water, so it may all freak out and do the rust spot, yellow, burned tip, fill in your favorite lock out deficiency here, etc…
Typically I water 1 gal every 3 days with a tea, tea, feed, and given the high VPD I am seeing this winter they will suck up 1gal per pot every other day even though they are under 24 inches.
The last couple of weeks have been feed, feed, tea at 1 gal/pot every other day and there is just the slightest discoloration at the leaf tips; I can live with that.
…I am not happy about watering every other day.
Nutrients used at flower: General Organics Go 6 bottle set, Recharge, Fish Sh!t, Bat Guano Company’s Budswel, New Millennium Fluvic, and a Dr Zymes drench at the start of transition.
Enough rambling. Good fortune to all your grows in 2023 and beyond!
Potato cam photo:

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Very nice looking group there, good work :+1:

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Thanks BB! 4 24 inch high plants in a 5x5 under 765 Watts in 5 gal smart pots.
I don’t imagine the grams/watt is gonna scale that well, but I am a quality over quantity grower.
Entourage effect is what I’m looking for; still looking for MY unicorn.
Keeps me spending money at seed banks. :grinning:

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F42 notes
Dear Diary: another rambling stream of consciousness…
TL;DR: I think I loved what Azos/Mycos did, but I hated working with the products.
4 female clones up potted to 1 gal pots.
Clones were taken about 48 day ago; probably cut their heads off in the next couple of days.
Gonna feed right away, as the present run has an insatiable hunger for nutrients.
Hopefully start to flower in 10-14 days to mimic the 63 days seed to flower from the initial run.
Change in process: Azos & Mycos added.
I want to use this product because it is supposed to be the shit, and when I used it on the TG GG4 RIL they kicked ass, and because it is sitting on my shelf…
It takes a ton of time, and it is a huge pain in the ass to sprinkle the stuff on a root ball while rotating the damn thing.
…The Azos particles are microscopic and go airborne; the stuff gets gummy when the slightest moisture gets into it.
Azos and Mycos may be wonderful, but I despise my experience.
This time I lightly sprayed a solo with water and then sprinkled the microbes into the barely wet cup.
Pulled the clone from it’s solo, gave it a spray with H2O, and then put it into the treated solo and kinda spun it to scrape the bacteria off the treated cup.
Wound up with a gummed up mess in the treatment cup, but I did get a lot of white stuff and tan stuff in direct contact with the roots.
Might have to think about hard plastic pots for the intermediary before going to 5+gal pots in the future.

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F50
Well according to the packaging, 2 weeks to go…
You know what they say - Give it another 2 weeks.
These girls have been packing it on over the last 2 weeks.
1 & 2 are very similar and forming rounded baseball bat tops.
4, while tiny at the very top, are shaping up to be fat little christmas trees at every top; pretty unique in my experience.
6 the tops are more elongated, almost sativa style tops.
Every time I’ve taken a quick peek in the tent I wind up jumping all the way in because I think I see a nanner.
…I’ve not found any yet.
…The stigma on these start out with the same super bright yellow that I associate with male parts, so I keep going into the tent with my cat hair covered fleece and hair not tied back.
…All these buds will go under the magnifier to pull out all the above…ahh more time in trim jail…
I should scope the tichs next week to check where we are.
FR1:


FR2:

FR4:
F50 FR4
FR6:

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Note to Self:
TL;DR: Does waiting to up pot until after transition cut down on stretch? No scientific information will be provided. :innocent:
Thoughts on short plants…
These were in 1 gal pots for the first 11 days of flower.
This created a challenging/stressful rootzone during stretch phase.
My last run of a different cultivar I left them in the 1 gal pots for 15-20 during transition, and these didn’t stretch at all; tops were rock hard quality buds, but not a ton of yield.
…Running regular seed and I don’t want to waste 4 gallons of dirt on the males that I’m gonna cull.
If I had the room I would experiment with this with some clones to see how root abuse 2 weeks into flower affects final biomass/flower quality…
Just musing…have not researched, umm googled, anything about this.
2 runs back was the TG GGR R.I.L. feminized, so they were all up potted to 5 gal pots before the flip and they were looking me in the eye when they were done and kissing my lights.
Being that I don’t want to fight canopy heights, I am NOT going to be doing any controlled experiments.
I do have a clone of each of the 4 females on deck in 1 gal pots waiting on a flip; might up pot them before the flip to see the difference.
…I’ld have to visit my ShoreGrow Hydro and pick up more dirt.
Breeders are being tortured in solos at week 5 of being cupped and 7 weeks since cutting.
The 2 boys look to be very different: 1 looks like a short fire hydrant, while the other looks like the “sativa”-ish #6 pheno.
…Guess I ought to chuck with both and see what shakes out.
Being that these are F1 from Mosca and CAP, F2 would have even more variety.
Oh yeah, I looked at a bunch of pictures of the Raspberry Boogie from Mosca, and as mentioned above, the stigma are all super bright yellow; not a single bit of red/purple to be seen anywhere.
Days are mid 80s, nights high 60s…YMMV.

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In my experience, the plant needs root development in order to develop shoots. So, yes keeping them in small containers during the transition will limit stretch. That’s been my experience in living soils anyway. I’ve seen some huge plants grown I tiny rockwool cubes though. :man_shrugging:

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Rockwool is a whole different ball game. We used to use the 2 inch cubes for starting and then grew 10 week monsters in 2 gallons of rockwool flock. Then again, they got watered 2-5 minutes every half hour…
Right now I could care less about total yield. Entourage, manageable, and easy trim are my focus these days.