My Water Culture

Holy crudler!


I got 771 grams of weed so I am close to my 1 kilo goal. If I can get back to pulling a key per light… I mean I know I say this phrase lots… I can die a happy man, LOL!

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meat breath and big buds! I am approaching the hermie time threshold so I’m starting to think furiously about my options. Do I pump it for 20 days? Oh wait!!! I can go back to oleskool’s thread and plumb the depths, how silly of me to get so high I almost forgot about that. Yeesh lay off the freeze dried hash :wink:

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woah! After re-reading the entire thread and compiling a series of events… it took 14 days for oleskools plants to finish getting all crazy. Unreal! It really opened my eyes.

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Yes sir! It is very true. Thanks for helping me understand what’s going on in those buckets.
You did very well for yourself. So 3 months veg. Under how many watts?

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I have 275watt LEDs for veg and 1000watt hps for bloom.

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Your the Boss! That’s great man.

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Thanks LilJon! I am hoping there’s still room for improvement heh heh.
I have been thinking about the data from the FLC BX1…and I have some interesting thoughts.
The hermie trait does seem to be genetic in there…and the reason I think that, is due to the timeline I had developed from oleskool. It went in two weeks just like a hermie does. I know people muttered about stress making hermies, and that’s true. Except it’s not like I shock a plant in veg and it stops ethylene production in bloom a month later…or whatever. It’s different than that. I can go down there in bloom and shock my plants at any time to produce male flowers. But there’s no shock I can give it in veg to produce male flowers in bloom. Not based on any observation I have made, anyways.

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Keep us updated with your findings.
I’m still very green when it comes to plants turning herm. I just had a little first hand experience. I learned I need to inspect my plant a little more and be more thorough. As well as better personal notes. Journals on here are good. It can get a little congested with chit-chat making it hard to sift through. Don’t get me wrong I love to BS.

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I go back and speed read the thing paying no attention to photos and only text, just scrolling nonstop down and down lol! If you stop to try and “say” the words in your mind, you already wasted too much time reading it. I think they call that sub-vocalization where your brain sends the signal to your voice box to stretch the vocal chords to mimic saying the word even though you are reading it silently. That’s the speed killer right there. I’m not sure how fast people are supposed to read, but it doesn’t seem very fast.
Personally I haven’t had much study time on the sexing of the plants. I would just grow them until pre-flower then clone and bloom. White hair female lol. I seen a hermie once. Then I spent like 17 years growing from clone no sexing shit. Then after the contest I had 3 seeds in a bag, so I started the sexing experiment back in september-ish with the crazy meat banger plants. But not really, because I was just fucking around with them until I decided to do the study. That started for the most part with holyangel’s seed gift, which was invaluable. 3 males and 1 female so far, but the strange part is I learned so much from just that lol! I had already observed years ago the plant grows the sex on the 5th node. Now I am starting to think 5th node expression means male. I have to gather way more observations to prove my current hypothesis, but with each seedling I sprout, I get closer to determining the truth. I am getting…thirsty to study that seed I just found in the buds.

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My government still says the research I’m doing is illegal. No wonder people don’t know squat about the plant, crikey! The sponsors of my clandestine drug lab still believe in a less ignorant future for our children lol!

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Lead the way my friend. Once our children have children and all the dinosaurs die off we will see legalization. It’s uneducated people making poor decisions.
Now you said male sex is expressed on the 5th nodes. Is that only in that strain? Have you seen it in others? What node do you see the females? U guess if you don’t see male parts on the 5th it’s gotta be female.

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Hmm yeah you make a very good point there. If this is reproduceable, I’ll likely stop working the line then. Not trying to proliferate herm genetics.

My thought is, the Super Lemon Haze that makes up part of the mom’s, is known to herm. There’s big talk of a herm’ing SLH cut floating around… I don’t know that it’s Franco’s cut, but its some cut. either way, any herm genes are coming from the FLC side of the cross. Backcrossing to either of the mom’s is likely only going to bring that further…

Least that will free up some space in my tents :sweat_smile:

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Had to pull out the old dictionary. Lol.
That’s very responsible of you. Stopping the line.
If $ is involved people do stupid things.

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heh heh unfortunately I don’t know squat about cannabis genetics. I’m starting to think that’s gonna be a problem going forward lol! Oh my… gonna have to sharpen my head to it’s pointiest point and learn a bunch. I’ve…like formed some kind of hypothesis but I don’t know enough yet to critically think about if I’m full of shit or not. But that doesn’t matter. Here’s what I can really do based on my current level:
determine if my 5/7 node hypothesis is correct by gathering more data by sprouting seedlings, and also… Burrow into everyone’s mind and try to extract data from them. So uhh… have you noticed any bumps on where the leaf bract grows from the stalk at node 5 to 7? :smiley:

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I don’t think I’ve spent a lot of time looking at them :thinking: From your pics I’m just seeing normal growth/sexing patterns. Males tend to have a double bump before the stalk elongates and you get the ball dangle on one bump… the girls are usually just the one bump that forms into the calyx… Again, I’ve not noticed anything abnormal on these… if anything, the goji’s and some other’s look real abnormal to me :sweat_smile:

I ran 10 FLC BX1 at 12/12 from seed and had absolutely zero issues except for two that threw a few nanners at 7/8 weeks after getting a few accidental ice-cold water feeds. I can only assume it was the cold water as the rest got normal temp feeds and didn’t throw any nanners at all.

I ran another 10 FLC BX1 at 24/0 for a month and then flipped to 11/13. I didn’t see any issues on those either but I did not complete flower cycle on them. This whole group was chopped a week or two after sexing so maybe 3 weeks into flower at best.

Slowly been running through more for that male but yeah… That being said, at no point have I really stress tested these. Just a normal mostly correct grow on all of them.

I a have male just getting ready so I’ll see what I can see and let ya know :+1:

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yah here’s the thing eh? I’m developing a synopsis of events in relation to the plants growth. uhh in english please? a brief summary or general survey of something, and here’s what I got.
seedling puts out root
seedling forms cots
seedling forms first node - not cots
seedling forms second node
seedling forms third node
seedling forms 4th node and sheds skin on the stalk up to the cots
seedling forms 5th node, male grows tiny bump at the node
seedling forms 6th node
seedling forms 7th node, female grows tiny bump at the node.
from there, the plants keep growing side branches and roots, and the female POSSIBLY grows pre-flower not always that is visible to the human eye. The male grows more bracts.
week one in bloom:
sex parts of the female and male keep growing bigger, with the female pistil emerging.
week 2 in bloom:
male will start to get ready to pollinate, hermie with get ready to pollinate.
female will keep growing more and more buds/pistils

etc etc… I was curious if you have noticed things happening around the 5-7 node time that seems to match the synopsis I generated, or if it’s all bullshit lol!

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I’m going to try my hardest to see if it works with all the strains I got going. I will have to lay off the coffee that day so I can keep the microscope steady.

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Thanks! Independent observation is the best way to tell if I’m full of crap from my perspective.

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I wanna say 4th node is where sexing starts :thinking: may be easier to tell on the 5th

But yeah all that sounds accurate…

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thanks! I’ll scrape the 4rth node next time looking for something! My eyes can generally pick out something 200 microns in size, so I’ll… see. :wink:

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