I am looking for a source for Nevilles Haze and was curious who was working with good lines? I know Mr. Nice is a good starting point, but have heard many people say that they think the line has changed since first releases.
Would love to get a male and do a cross to a johnny blaze f2 i have sourced. Plus just see what it does if crossed to autoflowers
This tread could give rise to yet another shitty discussion between haters and fanboys…
In MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE (so it is not the absolute truth, but MY experience, that of others will be different) I had unpleasant and disappointing results to say the least with the mns version, while I found a fantastic plant with ghs (but I must warn you: the germination ratio of ghs literally sucks, 1 plant out of three seeds; mns 100% of hatched seeds)…
I don’t know anyone else who has Nevil haze on their list, maybe Ojd…
Peoplecan always debate, i am just hoping for more sources
Cltvrs.com has Nevilles haze f3s. I grew out 2 and was underwhelmed.
% I had the same experience with a different line. Two 10 packs and only one plant each.
I had one girl out of a whole pack of (Swiss Thai x NH21) x (NH21 x MM F2) from OJD that was okay but not really anything to write home about. Also really poor germ rate there. So I can’t really say if it’s good or bad but that’s what happened.
If MNS and Exotic Alchemy (Cltvrs) don’t have good versions then I don’t know who has a good representation currently.
Maybe @southernhazecollective on IG? 
I bought some from mns have not grown them yet but they are sitting in the fridge. I grew there mango haze and loved it. I’ll be growing another haze if there’s hopefully soon down the line. Don’t mind trading acouple!
Great question. I would love to know as well. I can find plenty of Neville’s crosses. Beahhorder has a few but nothing pure.
Wonder what’s up with mrnice?
I would straight think of mrnice?
Did they lose moms or bad reviews lately perhaps?
Afaik, Shanti isn’t using the original parents despite whatever he says. It’s his own selections at best.
When Nevil started up again in Australia, he asked Shanti for his original 97 NH beans he gave Shanti before he went to jail. Shanti sent him a bunch of NH beans and he grew them out. Nevil said they weren’t the same beans. They weren’t the beans he made. He had to go back to Shanti again asking for the REAL '97 NH beans before shanti finally sent them to him. The original 97 beans are what Nevil found all the cuts in to make the outback haze and others. NH#18, NH#21, NH#36, etc.
Thanks for the clarification. I used to love Shanti’s original work but I had heard it’s no longer the same. I grew Rhino and Shark back in the late 00’s from older seeds an older head passed to me. They were both fantastic the Rhino was spicy bitter herb with some garlic funk hit like a train. The great white shark had a wonderful creeper high that would jump you around 40 minutes in and rock your world.
Ahh that sucks
At least, my friend ran a SSH from mrnice, seeds batch from the last year, and it turned out fire
heard that it was like 12-13 wk flowering super silver haze with some leathery incense terp. some pheno was more fruity/hazey.
Well that’s good news at least. I have a few packs of mrnice I still plan on running here, including the NH.
I have been poking around and it seems Swami has a Neville’s haze. Anyone here ever run any of his gear? I also found an offering from Deadpan Head seeds too.
Good topic. I can vouch for the germ rates - I have some master kaze from mns auctions which was sold as old stock from the freezer, and 10/10 sprouted in the shot glass of water before I could pull them out. Same with the cbd therapy which was sold as old stock.
Neville’s haze has been a bucket list for me too, and I have a pack of mns waiting for me to test myself.
I e always heard their gear requires a bit more selection but then again you hear all the chatter about the moms not being the same. I guess I’ll have to test myself before giving up hope.
I grew Neville’s skunk a while back and despite some major screw ups on my end, it was good and got me pretty ripped 
Not to side track the thread but are ACE A5 crosses any good? Thai and Oaxacan x A5 just came to my attention.
I don’t know much about mns but I do have a pack of mns nevilles haze from 2012 and was wondering when you think the line changed? I was hoping to find a strong cerebral high pheno from them does anyone know the chances of me finding one in this pack? Is this pack worth f2ing or is previous lines much better?
Mullumbimby Madness x NH x Malawi Gold?! 
What a ride that must be! That’s got to be Holy grail sativa experience. I haven’t had any MM but the other 2 are legendary.
Wow, that one’s growing fast @Hashpants ! I think it likes that spot! Crazy main stalk, looks like bamboo almost!
It’s gonna be a spectacle, no way to train them in that spot. It’s got what plants crave. It will do 15 ft easy.
