Exactly, that’s why the 89 description says NL2 is a „remarkable pure Hindu Kush type“.
Same year he had Kush x Kush in the Catalog.
It wasnt him, it was Sensi.
He said they literally kept every cutting and did not let him sort out stuff.
This is out of the 87 catalog.
I see your point 
But the NL2 F3 in the 89 catalog says there’s a bunch of sativa in there too for being “of remarkably pure Hindu Kush phenotype” “With just a hint of sweet piney Sativa mixed with the rich Kush pungency” Doesn’t sound so ‘Pure’ to me there
That said… Kush x Kush only appears in the 1989 catalog, not the 1990
Makes ya wonder what happened to it
This is what Sensi Seeds sold as “Northern Lights” in the 1991 catalog. They never sold NL1/2/5 alone.
F4 NL2 male to Kush4 produced a vigorous hybrid that was true to type tho, aka, pure kush.
idk.
It gets more interesting when you listen to NL Greg say that Nevil didn’t get pure NL’s but instead got NL5xNL2 and NL2xNL5 marked as NL5 and NL2.
Sure, later on Nevil got the pure cuts, but he said it himself they didn’t compare to what he got on his original trip to the US from Don.
So, perhaps his NL5xNL2 is (NL5XNL2)xNL2.
I’d like to hear Greg comment on this.
That doesn’t change the 87 and 89 description. Those are his words.
But it’s a hybrid and not an inbred line.
He also said he never encountered Thai in NL2.
I don’t see your point there. If Marty was there in 1989 there is a chance that Kush x Kush is what he bought. This though has nothing to with whether or not sensi Hindu Kush is K4xNL2 or NL2.
Edit: a hint is not a bunch.
Yeah, really hoping his story is accurate there 
I have heavy doubts on the whole story. Especially now that he’s rewritten the entire description of the TK cut.
Hindu Kush wasn’t for sale in 1989 so Marty could NEVER have boughten it. He either bought NL2 F4 or Kush x Kush if he was there in 89. Unless Nevil was selling it in the storefront but not in the catalog. The name ‘Hindu Kush’ didn’t appear anywhere as a strain name until Sensi Seeds in 1991.
If Hindu Kush is K4 x NL2 or just straight NL2, gonna be some differences there. I know the Purple Hindu Kush cut is nothing like the NL2 I’ve had 
But I DO get similar scents in the OG’s and such as I do in NL2.
It was a hybrid in 89 yeah, but it produced pure Hindu Kush type plants. He could’ve backcrossed it to NL2 to make it an inbred line by 91 
Yeah I’ve not ever seen it in there either myself, but deep_rob will surely tell you that it is and that’s what he bred for Think Greg was saying thai too but again, doubt.
Nope, he did not do that, as stated by him. He also was surprised nobody else did it.
Regardless. If Marty went in 1989, he didn’t buy Hindu Kush beans…
Yes but that’s why I wrote
Gotcha! So we’re just going in circles 
I think we came to some conclusions tho at least
How do we feel about Silver Pearl being in OG ? 
I can see it. That would also explain some of its lankiness
I’d love for someone to ask Kris Kristofferson what he thinks it is, since he was a pilot in Air America
You’re thinking of NL5, not NL2.
NL2 definitely has some sativa influence.
Here’s a real NL2 from Nevil F3.
It matches the catalog picture
HK is more closer to OG than NL2. Having grown both, it’s clear to me HK is the KushxKush and not NL2. No doubt Sensi recycled NL2’s description and picture for the HK line.
“That’s what Greg told Nevil”
Therein lies the crux.
Greg is a veteran. Nevil and Don were junkies. Greg didn’t trust junkies.
Greg admitted he told Nevil half truths and BS since Nevil came at him sideways to try and make a dollar, whereas Greg and his crew were more like Hells Angels - using this drug to help fellow veterans, just like HA got their start helping brothers by giving them PCP (this is why bikers always had a lot of chrome on their bikes - if they ever met a brother on the road who was suffering PTSD real bad, they could just use that chrome to cook up a batch of PCP and hold ceremony, literally, an angel pulling a brother out of hell).
Anyone basing the mythology and history of NL based on what Nevil said is going to be chasing their own tail.
The fact that Nevil thought NL5 was just Thai x Afghan and didn’t know at all that is was BOEL/Herbie’s Hawaiian is another point to show how clueless Nevil really was.
Sure, Nevil did a lot of great work and his gear is the basis of much of the breeding that happened from the late 1980’s through today. But he was a junkie and abused Xanax. To think his memories were clear as he typed them out decades later is a joke. To think he was honest is another joke (look at his undisclosed use of Mullum in his work).
This “D” character says Nevil’s NL5 cut came from seeds he popped. This would I assume be the cut Nevil said was better than the NL5 cut he got from the Seattle crew years later. Well, Nevil’s first trip to the States where he came back with the NL lines were given to him by Don. Greg did t trust Don and only gave Don the pure NL2 since Don’s son in Oregon provided the Hindu Kush they used to make NL2. But all the other lines were outcrossed and incrosses. For example, the NL5 that Greg gave Don was actually NL5XNL2. When Nevil asked Greg for NL5, Nevil was in rough shape (junkie), so Greg said no. Then Nevil backdoored Greg by linking up with Don. Don gave Nevil his NL5, and said it’s pure NL5 - because Don thought he had the real thing and didn’t know that Greg didn’t trust him and gave him NL5XNL2 instead. So, Nevil came back from the States with NL5XNL2 thinking it’s pure NL5.
If Greg did eventually give Nevil the pure NL5, my thought as to why Nevil preferred his original ‘NL5’ mom he signed from Don’s seeds is because Nevil is a junkie and likes narcotic highs. So NL5 x (Hindu Kush x Kabul x Mazar) would be more a appealing to a junkie than Hawaiian x (Kabul x Mazar). I mean, look at Nevil’s Haze - it’s the most narcotic of the Haze lines at the time. Many haze lovers today stay away from NH simply because of the narcotic essence it carries.
Of course, if you try to say this on the MrNice forums you get banned.
I agree 99%, the only thing I would say (even if it’s slightly OT) is that Nev. Hz contains nl, so it will always be a little more “body effect” than pure haze; furthermore (here’s something that could cause you problems on mns forum) the current version is different from that of many years ago…
Just my 2 cents…
Perhaps, but here’s the problem with believing what Greg says:
NL1 is different than Nevil’s Afghan #1.
Seems like thats the genesis of the confusion there.
People mistakingly say NL1 is Steves Afghan x Nevil’s Afghan #1, when its not.
NL is the two Afghans. Then outcrossed to make the numbered lines. Thats from Greg himself.
Forced to bite my lips a bit it’s hot, but between you and me i sincerely swear that the whole Sensi catalog is tinted by the NL#1. Only exceptions aren’t. And like say Wuachuma, there is no way to confond the A#1 with the NL#1 (on the same genpool i’m talking about). From the shape to the floral.
Because i just hate it (NL#1 hybrids) and that I’m washing it like a maniac in all sensi release that i’m working with. Being not familiar with the Nice catalog (beside the GHS-era releases), i’m unable to give a comparative feedback.
Damn why i writed this, click bait HA ^^
