Question(s) for SOILLESS growers RE: Organics

With bottle nutes or organic soil?


Yah there’s a mutant GMO right there in DWC. Thing is over 6 feet tall! I’ll go get a root ball photo.

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The root ball is deep down in there. No way I can lift that plant out.

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Okay Quest started! :rofl:

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i do my own organic soil mix. based off coots living soil. i alter the recipe to deal with the heat here.
i use dr.earth dry amendments. 2-2-2, 4-6-3, 3-9-2
for liquid soluble fertilizer i use alaska fish fert 5-1-1 and alaska bloom 0-11-11

dry amendments are added to original bucket soil, then top dressed once a month
liquid fert is once a week on “fertilizer fridays”

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Wow. If you’re getting 6oz a plant in 2.5 gallons of organic soil it sounds like you got your set up pretty dialed in. :+1: I can get 6 off a coco plant in small pots but man I need 7-10 gal pots for organic. I need to check your journal and take some notes the next time I run organic lol

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it really depends on the strain. 6oz is quite atypical but some have had surprising yield. a lot of these medical strains are weird. some look dense and end up being trim nightmares. others you don’t expect much and they become demonic jungle plants.

i’d say my biggest yielders have been hybrids that lean more sativa. the ones that laugh at topping, LST, supercropping and the SCROG net…
acapulco gold, peyote gorilla and blue dream auto were the ones that overproduced (not that i’m complaining about the fat stash).

the others that were noteworthy for yield were grown outside, so don’t count but i will mention in case you’re interested.
HSC OG Kush produced a lot of really nice ganja. sadly the flowers weren’t dense, but even though a little on the whispy side, the potency makes up for the density shortcoming.

Blimburn Purple Bubba Kush. this plant was donkey dick cola central. colas so heavy they bent the branches and required double trellis. and these also turned out whispy (weird) but looked and felt dense before harvest. regardless is really produced a LOT of whispy stuff that is tasty and potent.

also if you’re curious, my alterations to coot’s soil recipe deals with adding more peat and coco choir and switching rice hulls for perlite. i also omit a few of his trace mineral additions in favor of the azomite, langbeinite, and glacial rock dust.
my mix is probably a bit lighter on the compost soil and heavier on the coco/peat/perlite. water retention is a big thing here in TX… summers are HOT. i also screen/sift my compost and take out all the big chunks of wood (they sap the soil of Nitrogen when breaking down).

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The purple bubba sounds kick ass. I’ve always had great results with hsc but never tried their og.
I’ve been thinking hard about setting up an organic indoor raised bed and doing sog.
I haven’t decided on that yet :100:…. I change my mind a lot lol.

i was really impressed with the HSC OG Kush structure. each branch was topped with a cola. not huge colas, but respectable. and MANY of them.
the flower structure was a bit odd… more flattened than rounded. but scent, flavor and potency are quite good. it smelled of sweet and fuel just before harvest.

the purple bubba was one of those deceptive plants. colas were huge, and looked/felt dense. but after the dry the fat buds turned whispy. still smells, tastes and smokes great… just was expecting king kong mega dense buds. not so. smooth and potent smoke. quite tasty.
just a weird plant that produced a LOT. (again… not complaining)

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Great thread, @Til_Valhalla . Looking forward to hitting it with a fine tooth comb come my “weekend.” May have need to run more than RDWC soon enough, so I need to start figuring the next direction. Thanks
Stay up
Coffin_Dodger
:ghost: :raccoon:

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thanks dude. certainly didn’t expect this much response. but some good info in here i think.
really looking forward to trying this technique out… see how it works.
i have a bunch of coco, vermiculite and some more down to earth dry amendments on order from amazon. they will be here before i need to transplant the lavender and trainwreck. going to give it a go on these two. maybe not the wisest idea on the rare lavender, but nothing ventured nothing gained.

should be a fun experiment.

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If you want to see faster growth in organic soil try topdressing with a layer of horse manure and cover it with fresh dandelion leaves, and fresh grass clippings.

I’ve never seen any of my plants grow faster than that time.

I added it in beginning of veg, after the first couple of true leaves.
It took off like nothing I’ve ever seen and it was potent stuff!!!

Horse manure has a pretty ideal nitrogen to carbon ratio so the chances of burning your plant by topdressing are very low, just make sure the layer is no more than an inch (2-3 cm) thick.

After a couple of weeks scrape some aside and be ready to discover the richest, blackest soil you’ll ever see.

God I love horse manure! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

It also tends to harbor beneficial predatory insects.

I also grew vetch / beans in that pot before I added the horsemanure.

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Can u direct me to Subcool’s Super soil mix recipe. Much appreciated

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sounds like something to try outdoors. i highly doubt my wife is going to let me inside with horse sh^t… :smiley:

there are some earthy/crunchy soil hippie videos that brew compost teas from fermented grass clippings and other weird stuff. i have seen the dandelion greens mentioned as well.

horse poop is a new one for me.

Haaa, the perks of living alone. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
Since it has such a perfect ratio it doesn’t smell much at all.
You wouldn’t smell it outside the tent.
Especially if you cover it with grass and dandelion.
It decomposes and melts into the soil very fast as well.

From this video: https://youtu.be/1Tk_melmv14?si=bcKZ1Dj7L70Ouhjv

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Thank u for all the info,

you’re welcome.
this is the way. OGTW.

sitting down at the computer. checking email. open a youtube tab. right front and center is this video.
(nah… they aint tracking us…)

anyways… soilless organic 101 by this dude. his recipe is even more simple than the one i had in mind.

ok. here we go. going to give it a shot. will make the mix for the zone1 plants.
here is what i did.

The Mix
20 cups of coco coir
10 cups sifted compost
10 cups peat moss
10 cups vermiculite
10 cups perlite
1 cup worm castings
4 tbsp Dr.Earth tomato and herb 4-6-3
1 tbsp epsom salts
1 tbsp garden lime
1 tbsp azomite
1 tbsp langbeinite
1 tsp mikos (sprinkled directly on transplant roots and transplant hole)

all this fits into a 2.5 gallon bucket.
watered in and placed up under the light.

first in the new mix is the Soma Lavender F2. will see what all this does. i hope it works. i think the new deal will be to figure out how much and when to water considering how light and ‘fluffy’ the mix is.

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