The previous message was for an individual, not the forum, no?
Depersonalize, write in 3rd person to increase statement’s influence. 
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Yeah…Duck that ship. When a woman or man pulls a plant out of their chest a la Alien, ill accept that it’s theirs to own.
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Since 2016 I’ve given away at least 10,000 seeds, maybe 20,000, that were F2’s of breeder packs I purchased from TGA/Subcool, Dutch Passion, Brother’s Grimm, BCGA, Paradise, and Dynasty Seeds.
Sure hope the “breeder police” don’t come looking for me! 
In fact, I’m still holding around 2,000 TGA Chernobyl cross seeds that I’d be happy to piggy-back onto these projects - if someone is volunteering to mail out all the seeds I’d be thrilled to send them enough Chernobyl to add a bonus pack for everyone to play with.
My goal is to protect my now-legal right to cultivate by creating an army of home growers. Empowered by growing their own herb, this grass-roots force will fight any attempt to restrict or repeal home-growing rights in the future 
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Last time i checked there is only one proprietary strain here in canada. And to apply for proprietary rights it has to be an IBL with little to none phenotypical variation. So you cant even get proprietary status on f1s.
Ive never looked before but are there even any proprietary strains in USA?
Edit- its called the ‘plant breeders rights act’ here in Canada.
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not sure but I would imagine the big obstacle to trademarking or copyrighting one’s cannabis seeds is federal prohibition.
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Just curious, I have this question for OG - why don’t the Seed Police crack down on this project?
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I know I’m an idiot when it comes to stuff like this, Can someone please explain to me, without the “Breedereze”, what the difference is between the f’s and s’s?
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You got it, man. The terrible irony is that the same federales have pre-empted legalization and patented cannabinoids for nerve dmg therapy.
[where’s my vomit emoji?]
Overgrowing until the plant returns to being a weed is job #1.
standing ovation (does ovation have anything to with “O-face” 
?) 
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Some info that may be helpful @WMoon518:
And, there was another excellent thread about standardizing the conventions but can’t seem to find it. Someone?
Well, here an external link: https://www.alchimiaweb.com/blogen/basic-nomenclature-cannabis-genetics/
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what’s the short version - we’re all using “F2” as a slang term right? It’s more accurate to say the seeds made from breeder packs are copies.
I don’t think homebrew “F2” seeds will match the F1 seeds, they’re usually a little different in some way. Maybe that’s why I see “F2” giveaways as harmless. It’s not the “authentic” strain, just good seeds IMO. You could have selected different plants from the parents and gone in a different direction, or less vigor, etc.
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Open pollination with as many plants as possible would give you the closest offspring to the parents though correct?
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Or i guess more diff phenos but you should find the same phenos as in the f1 gen?
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Yeah I think open pollination would give you offspring with enough variation to find what it should be… You know? Lol
not sure if I even know
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I do see an ethical issue with breeding a fellow OG’ers commercially available seeds for a giveaway on OG. But C-50’s really not ‘in the scene’ enough to judge him for an accidental, well-intended, missed step. He also gave away the few seeds he made (accidentally I believe) as mixed.
As a hypothetical,
Say I make f-2 seeds of a strain created and commercially available by one of OG’s sponsors. Then do a giveaway thread with those seeds. Of course it would be legal, but is that not an ethical overstep?
…For the record, I have no problem with any preservation project of rare and/or no longer available strains. I’m glad to watch that happen.
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Define ethics to all our world wide brothers and sisters for us😉 lol jk
But yes It would be unethical, I don’t know about individual projects but the bodhi runs I have started are not commercially available atm, afaik
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@Northern_Loki,
Let me see if I have this straight… y’all are talking about taking a Bodhi seed, Tranquil Elephantizer (which is a cross between two original strains) and pollinating it with a male from a different strain from somewhere else?
The way it sounded, though, was that they were just going to make Tranquil Elephantizer seeds and give them out. If the former, why would that even be a problem as I read of many people here crossing strains, all the time.
… So what’s Truth and what’s God?.. (My fellow “Niners” will understand that)
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That’s the plan, my man. . .and unless someone can get me in touch with bodhi or bodhi pms me or posts on one of the Bodhi Seed Run Threads, I will remain diligent to this project and respectful to any and all questions comments and concerns, either publicly or privatey, thanks guy:v:
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It’s very long to explain in details all the mechanisms involved in an open pollination. I will try my best to be synthetic.
F1 are cemented by the heterosis, the genetic shock when twos “stranger lines” have a meeting lol To do an anthropomorphism, we are all F1 and have the tendency to search a partner able to make F1.
F2 is a repeated sequence, and start to create segregation than start to fight to survive. So you will have specimens more close to the mother than the F1, others more close to the father, other a weak mix of twos with different balances and sometimes also specimens which come from very far, like 4 generations before the initial parents. Depend on the blood in question and if they share a common skeleton (like twos skunks, or two dutch hazes)
When you use an open pollination on F2, you don’t backup anything. To don’t lost anything, you have to isolate each subgroup then to create a specific F3 line for each subgroup : subgroup “look like daddy”, subgroup “look like mommy”, subgroup " wtf is this" lol etc …
So, sorry to debunk this without more words but at this early stage of segregation an open pollination is the more destructive process than can be done. It don’t mean than it can be bad at all, who know. But the genetic equilibrium in game will choose for you what to save and what to wipe.
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So, if you are taking a TE female and pollinating it with a TE male, wouldn’t that still be an F!? Or, do you add to each subsequent generation (i.e. breeding a M & F of the same strain) becomes an F2, and breeding two of those results in an F3, etc?
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Generally, the off spring are referred to as F2’s at this point.
There may be more accurate nomenclature.
My concerns run toward the breeder.
If, from all of this, his name is somehow attached to inferior genetics that result from this endeavor, it will not serve the breeder we all love very well.
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