It’s as simple to get none than to get some with these cuts … come one bad faith champ ^^
It’s the same that to count the number of roots in this vein or saying it have to taste like an OGK or it’s not genuine ^^
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2007
Shows rezdogs “purple diesel” ^
Doobie Nyce’s Original Diesel (supposedly from Rez)
Mr A cut of ECSD 2010 (Its “OD”)
2004 Smokey:
Sour Gummy Sugar no Candy and Menthol
2010 Jah Hoover runs a verified cut by JJ and Lemon and it purples.
I already posted the 2004 logs of the cut gifted to Rez then Smokey and OG Raskal. This one has more people including Cannarado.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/east-coast-sour-diesel-clone-gallery.16298/page-23
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Weednerd spotted ^^ Very nice intel selection.
The 1s fractaLz’s comment is golden i find. It give details on the AJ that help to don’t mix. The cloney’s/untagged one is damned close but less sour and more musky at 80.
The 2nd comment describe perfectly floral traits of the ECSD, and even its dominance on its hybrids lol
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I’ve a bunch of clones on the go but i will show these ones they are cool. I try to make them pretty with pruning and all … hot soil with horse manure, strong NPK nutes 100% each watering, topped soon with extra PK starting at 100% … american muscle cut, to the vegetal style ^^
Its already enough high to auto-combust instantly any other trendy cut. Most, even the HPS-era ones. I’m firmly decided to don’t screw up the yield this time lol Wish me good luck. But yeah that’s something the AJ do too, eating at levels that kill others strains. No shit.
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That 1st Rez pic in link is clearly not the Sour Diesel, rez used his sd batches not the Sd clone in 99% of his projects, and anyone can look that up in his lineages of his seeds he released and try and find any lineages whete he used the actual Sour Diesel clone ( was very rare) his were always, bx etc, v2 etc , not to the clone.
1st pic you posted is what everyone knows as the legendary Sour Diesel aka ECSD and Rez used that cut also when using the famous clone only ( that is clearly not the Original Diesel clone but the famous ECSD aka Sour Diesel) that 100% confirmed by any Sour diesel expert . Like ive mentioned before because the diesel story is so messed up people are now calling there ECSD or Sour Diesel clones they have kept well preserved for decades the Original Diesel ( as its 1 of the most famous well preserved Sour Diesel cuts which are very special) , but Original Diesel clone and Sour Diesel aka ECSD are 2 different clones.
Extra 2 weeks flower , bigger stretch , different leaf colour/fade, different High, SD more Sativa influence ( just in my opinion)
99% of the well known clones with different names are all the Sour Diesel aka ECSD, those cuts were always much more circulated and shared than the Original Diesel which none of us even knew ofnback then ( 2008) , online people just knew Sour Diesel ( of coure the Diesel family/crew/friends knew it just 99.9% of people only know of the Sour Diesel aka ECSD)
For the record the Jah hoover cut and comments about JJ, lemonman etc is the same exact cut i use , and it doesn’t go purple , that was either a mistake photo or who knows what ( its dry buds)find any 1 photo of Jahs picture of a live plant with any purple.
Also his pics were always really foxtailed due to pk 13/14 which increases the foxtail look, and his mates who grew his buds and cup entrys ( i know them also( local to me) and can contact them if need be)
Jah doesnt even seem to have the cut anymore as where all the Diesel seeds been last 10 years from him ? , its all be ODV3 ( Orange Diesel)
That Orange Diesel was made by Jah with a dr p strain made from Soma’s NYCD Mandarin cut , A Male hit to the Original Diesel clone and that’s where Jahs ODV3 line and strains come from.
I i used to know Jah hoover and he used to come to my house( pre 2010) to smoke up.
Then we fell out 1 day
It happened when he brought some extra cheese cut to mine for me and when growing them they didn’t grow like the Brightside cut zig zag growth branching etc so I told him they were not the same , maybe a mislabelled whatever and that was that , no issue , cuts get mislabelled, shit happens, we were still cool and he used to still come by mine and we were cool.
Then we both went Amsterdam for a cup 1 year and worked out a plan ( as we both knew DNA and used to hang in the shop smoking and i had a link with soma) Jah brought back Original Diesel clone from DNA and i brought back the NYCD from Soma and we shared cuts.
Once I grew out the Original Diesel i realised it wasnt the Sour Diesel aka ECSD that i knew ( as grew very differently to all the other SD cuts i had at the time) captain crip cut , Hazyfontazy/bachhus cut , chaco cut , 3 different SD cuts i had and was making seed with all 3 at the time , which all 3 grew very similar and same traits but all a tiny bit different but all clearly the same family and what is known as Sour Diesel aka ECSD.
This Original Diesel cut grew very different, quicker flower , different stretch, different fan leaves etc etc but had that same wall pentrating Diesel we all knew.
I told Jah this Original Diesel cut was not the Sour Diesel aka ECSD clone and he thought i was taking away from this amazing clone ,or talking down on this cut and we fell out and a crazy drama unfolded online and we never see each other again.
After research online i discovered this was a different Diesel clone ( a more rare unseen Diesel clone that wasn’t passed around) and told Jah it was this and callled Original Diesel, but at the time the ECSD aka Sour Diesel was king and this Original Diesel clone was not known at all and Jah thought i was trying to take his fire away from having this cut, not the legendary well sought out ECSD aka Sour Diesel .
Later on Jah met JJ in Amsterdam and others and shared the flowers with JJ and others at the cup and they confirmed it was the Original Diesel clone only.
After that Jah started calling his cut the Original diesel clone instead of the Sour Diesel clones which is what i told him and why we fell out. But he thought i was taking away his 
or time to shine and i was just explaining it wasn’t the Sour Diesel aka ECSD , as id be running that myself for several years, growing flower’s, making seeds etc so knew it wasnt that cut , but knew is was incredible just wasn’t what was known as the legendary ECSD aka Sour Diesel.
Everything i mention people can look up , if you know Jah hit him up and ask if thats the story.
Again do research on Rez. He rarely used the real clone in his projects and used selected clones from his Diesel projects 99% of the time
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As i mentioned ive been deep in this Diesel story from 1st ever coming in contact with the legendary Diesel strain , Sour Diesel or Original Diesel, both have the same exact loud Diesel is known for and best ever Sour Diesel flower i ever tried was as tasty and Potent as the Original Diesel strain, but has to be a perfect run , or can be good , ok , bad , or incredible ( im talking back in 2010 the Sour Diesel was as loud as the Original Diesel when perfectly grown) depending on your run.
Just the Original Diesel clone brings 95 times out of 100 the legendary Diesel Terps, where many of the sd cuts these days dont bring that old Sour like it used to be , wether its dudding, old clone , mislabelled, etc , etc ,etc who knows , i myself think the broadmite pandemic in 2009-12 ruined many of the famous Sour Diesel clones, if not who knows why many well known reputable people state the same thing i say , Sour aka ECSD just dont give up that Sour Terp as it used to 15 years ago. Im not talking all Sour Diesel as i not tried any of this new cuts , i just watched legendary growers who been online for 20 plus years try new cut after cut after cut still not finding what they know as that Triple bag security risk Sour Diesel aka ECSD from early Internet era of Sour Diesel
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Again pic 2 and 4 are same clone and before Jah realised it was Original Diesel not Sour and he passed it to others ( people he worked with and they called it what he called it) Sour Diesel.
The Diesel story is very confusing for sure 
, the most confusing Canna story there is.
And like i said and in the danny danko Diesel video , there are multiple accounts from different people involved and they all think different on what pollinated what, and different storys so its impossible to get to a 1 actual story if the guys involved who brough the Diesel to the world all.have different accounts or ideas of what pollinated what and how the cuts got out etc.
Also 1 other thing that makes this story confusing is this Sour Diesel and Original Diesel was so sought after and guarded back then you wasnt aloud to share it , cuts were stolen , cuts were passed out under other names ( to not be discovered they passed it out) , bag seed was found by many ( anyone who grown Sour Diesel aka ECSD defo knows about bag seeds etc) and many other factors , that made people tell storys to hide, cover any trails that were not meant to ve seen when giving out the cut
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Wait two days for the psychological accomplishment 
Totally useless but … we are all the same lol
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Top Dawg Sour d bx3 x Wing Wang Sour d, f2 version I handed out last year. Yield is huge, flavor is predominantly burnt rubber funk.
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It would take me a while to move everything here. I am going try to just post archived logs and nothing I’d say is my personal opinion. Everyone is different and I do not want to attempt to sway preference.
OG Raskal Sour Diesel (ECSD) From what I understand he also received a cut for Chem direct not Rez but was able to keep her very happy. 2006
ECSD gifted by Chemdog to Rez then to Smokey verified by Rez. 2004-2005
The absolute oldest photos I could find actually logged anywhere with multiple search functions. The only older post was a 2002 description on Urban Dictionary. If anyone can source any before please post them I have not had chance to find any.
Here is a photo of Rez progeny using the NYC from Soma for the outcross.
I logged the comparable bract structure to Mexican types in the progeny not seen in the ECSD, AJ, or OD. Which I always related to the Mex in NYCD.
Here is ECSD in 2006 grown by Rez.
Here’s a Karmas Sowahh
Here she is at harvest:
Top Dawg Sour Diesel BX4
2016 Chemdog Interview where he says they’re all just monikers at this time:
variegation- In the BX4 I had 2/13 variegated and mutation are inherited. So that would be about a 15% inheritance of mutation.
Crazy Composer described the original sour diesel cut (verified holder and high rapport in general) as very low yielding. He makes a typo in an old log about creation date, according to JJNyC but co-signed authenticity of Compost as a grower at same time.
-other post on low yield
In this thread Smokey verifies this is the ECSD with chain of custody.
More shots of progeny (2.5 release from Rez)
As mentioned outcross was used to increase yield.
There’s still a lot more I’ll move over.
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Can confirm this plant is a monster grows faster and harder than anything I’ve popped in two years. Would make an ideal scrog project. I’m currently playing around with these genes 10/10 do recommend. Will have sexy pics in 10 - 12 weeks lol.
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Check out my 92og thread , it’s the 92og Bruce banners mother thread , looks more like the sour family then it does the og 
smells similar to a sour diesel clone I have atm but with a added layer of dog poo when in flower.
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Hope you boys don’t mind - thought I’d drop in again.
Ever since finding bizfactories flower shots of Karma’s SD I had to get my hands on it.
Fresh Sour Diesel pollen just hit these ladies - reproducing Karma’s Sour Diesel BX2 as we speak.
Should have a fair amount that I’ll be happy to trade around.
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You overthink it, the proximity of the source don’t comply with such narrowed and accurate dominance. And don’t forget that all is coming out from the mouth of Soma is 100% bullshit, his genesis is bullshit as well and he got a “starter kit” of the Dutch Club (the brick & mortars lords). There is even an old black and white photo on the net showing this big reunion with arjan, soma, ben dronkers, simon, luc … this legendary shot was even a long time trolled at ICM ^^
Now sincerely this is some valuable wednerds stuff ^^, zero fault but one on the ECSD tracking. The photos just after the paragraph on the 2002 description are showing plants totally fucked by the nutes. They aren’t reliable to extract safe patterns and valuables shapes of references. Specifically on the floral shapes. The two macros. I will not move more the knife in the wound, but in growing atm over 100 S1 of the SD … no one on earth can convince me that the ECSD is not a S1 of the SD ^^
Bullshit. It’s always been a 90’s fat beast with high yield, due to its specific floral shape and processing performances. 1kw/sqm HPS beast, vintage genetic that don’t like much to be grown gluten-free. Come on … these constant efforts of revisionism on things known since decades to push an “new most authentic”. It make dream only those afraid by one of the most complicated hunt in term of elite cuts ^^
variegations and mutations inheritance don’t belong to the same inheritance that “usual traits”, take care about it in your judgement. If during the BX4, a hidden chem#4 injection was made to bump potency … you end with the same and your conclusions are biased. Rating the % is important to check if it’s dominant dynamic or not, but stats don’t mean the same thing that an occurrence of an homozygous trait by example (with mutations, variegations can be considereb as one).
And again this shot damned, can’t wait to make SD outcross to show something else ^^
ECSD is ultra dominant on floral shape (when you know what you’re doing ofc) and output always the same hybrids shape. On this photo, the ECSD is rated only 30% of the genotype and you can’t miss the pattern ^^
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In all my years of reading and researching, ECSD has never been THE Sour Diesel cut. it’s an s1 or an outcross or something.
And Soma’s work doesn’t even count, it’s unrelated.
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His prime catalog was dope to be honest, luxury jam for a pig.
Soma is our Milli Vanilli of the green scene, he have his place 
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Looking forward to seeing the juice! All the originals needed a full 12 to finish. Don’t be surprised if the f2’s are the same.
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I over think everything. I get so stressed out. This is the only way I know.
I don’t understand what you’re saying about the variegated part really, The AJ I ran was variegated which is what was used in the Top Dawg line.
Variegation is an inheritable trait from what I understand and a mutation.
You do whatever you want man. Again, just transferring research so if you want to debate it I a lot of those cats are still around so may the force be with you.
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