If you haven’t spent some time over at this thread, you really should.
Hope all the best of all of you. 
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i was reading someone’s thread recently where they had a recipe for salves. not sure if it was reikos thread or not. (i’ve got to find it again… i didn’t bookmark it 
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i have not made tincture (yet). though i’m thinking some salves might help out abuela’s hips and knees.
will check it out, thank you.
appreciate you adding more information to the conversation. thanks.
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Excellent smoke reports on the Purple Kush and Candyland!
I appreciate knowing the “high” effects as well as reading your in-depth analysis of your MIL’s medical benefits from each strain.
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This is about a 10 minute read,and will give you some good starting points. Have fun!!
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thank you. i appreciate the compliment.
seems silly not to add both perspectives when they are readily available (and one of us is a willing participant… lol)
i just hope some of this info is helping out. i know there are several people keeping track of this thread as they have relatives afflicted with the disease as well. any ammo in this fight is good. i hope it saves them some time. we have had to go through a lot of trial and error and a lot of time has lapsed for us, and abuela’s condition always progresses. we are doing our best to slow it down and to at least provide some kind of comfort. we know she has lots of pain but still cant articulate what or where. makes things very difficult. affects morale as well.
lol… i’m glad candyland made the cut… i won’t complain “having” to grow it again (will have to take one for the team on that… )
i have two more purple kush cuts to test. i’m hoping the kannabia makes the cut. of the 3 PKs i would say it was hands down the best.
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thank you. i will.
Salve and tincture making is great for leftovers and damn useful in its own right. We froze some of our last crop specifically for it. I’ll have to ask JTT if you want an exact recipe we use- ours is dead simple, but the additions others make are just as logical, if there’s a bit more to deal with as far as handling during prep, and the like.
Rhai had a bit to say here, recently. And a few others notably chimed in.
Great work all around as usual in here, bro, and glad that Candyland has been showing promise.
Stay up
Coffin_Dodger
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yeah man. i’ll take a look at your recipe. hadn’t realy considered making salves till recently - abuela’s knees are getting real bad. something topical just makes sense.
i think you’re right. it was rhai’s thread i was reading. recipe seemed real simple and ingredients readily avail.
appreciate your compliments. thanks man.
i’m glad candyland made the cut too as it was beneficial to both of us. just makes it all the more sweet knowing it is on the “grow again” list … already thinking of ways to increase the yield next time… lol 
too bad they were fem seeds. might be worthwhile trying to find some regs? does anyone still work with this?
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Candyland F2 reg seeds were made by Alter Ego. And sold by SoCal Seed Vault. They don’t have any now, but i will ask “B” the guy i’ve spoken to there.
Here’s search results for the Alter Ego strains they DO have:
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thanks man. i appreciate your continued support with my project.
some many cool and helpful people in this place.
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looks like that “alter-ego” breeder has a BUNCH of stuff on abuela’s list. good prices too.
thanks for the tip!
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Sure thing! I haven’t grown any of his beans yet but plan to.
You mentioned GDP. I think you’ll like it a lot. Depending how amber the trichs are when harvested, the effects can be a lot like Candyland (functional and happy) or with a later harvest with more amber, it can be like Purple Kush (narcotic and very relaxing).
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oh yeah. we DO like GDP a lot.
i have a GDP clone mom i’ve been running for almost 3yrs now. it was the 2nd strain we found worked for abuela. (after acapulco gold)
i kept a selected female that had the best of everything from the pack and coincidentally seemed to worked best for abuela. 1 clone survived the spidermite scourge of '22 (lucky!). it is now the active clone mom. i call it “abuela’s cut” GDP.
yes. i find that 8 week finish (that’s recommended) is too short. i typically harvest at 9 weeks. i have gone longer. i find it gets a bit TOO narcotic and just becomes knockout sleep ganj. 9 seems the best mix for active brain up front / drooling brain in back / body aches gone.
despite the fact GDP aint gunna win any “highest THC” or “biggest buds” contests, it has fantastic medicinal effects.
gotta give credit where credit is due and say ken did the cannabis community a solid coming up with GDP.
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Strain Test Update:
i have been testing OG Kush on abuela this week. this has been a difficult week for testing so somewhat a disappointing report. at the beginning of the week the arizer was knocked over and the last glass bowl shattered on the floor. ordered replacements. they arrived in 2 days. restarted testing and found out she has another urine infection. (sigh)
continued with testing as we caught it early and got her on treatment, but know the testing results may be skewed and require a retest.
that all being said…
overall, i would say OG Kush is effective, but not as pointed as some of the others tested. it didn’t display any adverse side effects. her mood was good, although very relaxed. her cognitive was affected positively. she was making sense when talking and was having some good anomalous memory episodes. not as much as others, but still good enough to be noteworthy. she did smile and laugh a bit, but not quite as talkative as others. it seemed to handle a lot of her standard pain issues quite well. we did try to keep an eye on her tremors. OG Kush helped with the hand tremors, but did not stop them completely. i would say overall takeaways for this round of testing was a pleasant strain for her mood, pain free and VERY relaxed. better for afternoon, but could certainly be used during day. she wasn’t so relaxed to be sleepy or lethargic for her therapies. relatively agreeable for her therapies.
i think i would need to retest when no infection is present to tell whether or not OG Kush would remain on the pantheon of strains or not.
From My Perspective:
i LIKE OG Kush. a lot. it’s a good go to. i don’t reach for the jar as much as others, but it’s a great “pallet cleanse” type strain to fall back on every now and then. i like the flavors and the effects.
flavors earth and fuel with a slight hint of sweet. smelled of heavy fuel during grow and flower.
effects for me are a really HARD indica stone. back of head and body jelly. the stone also starts to invade the front of the head, not overwhelming, but in a pleasant way. euphoric way. it’s quite nice IMO.
as far as the grow, i had seed from Humboldt Seed Company. F5s. the plant was an easy grow. very spindly in veg. but amazing transformation in flower. not the biggest colas, but LOTS of them. would grow again…
but…
curious what the definitive OG Kush cut is. it’s another strain that has been crossed/outcrossed/backcrossed and every breeder has their own version of it. which is purest? so many versions to weed through.
bottom line, i would and will grow again. it works for abuela, it works for me. it seems a really good classic stand-by kind of strain worthy of being maintained.
is HSC cut good by connoisseur standards, or is there something better out there?
Coming Up Next:
this week, i will be testing Amnesia (Haze) Fast from seedsman. this one should be more sat leaning and be more of an upbeat strain. personally, i think it lives up to it’s namesake. i get pretty ripped off it and forget stuff when i walk from room to room. lol.
will see how it works on abuela. i thought it would be counterproductive to someone with memory issues, but hey stranger and more counterintuitive strains/things have worked out for her in the past.
til next time
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Strain Test Update:
whelp… that didn’t take long. i tested Amnesia (Haze) Fast on abuela. within 10 minutes of her vaping, she had HIGH anxiety.
frightened, anxious, crying, mild hallucinations - didn’t want to be alone.
very negative side effects. we brought her back down to ground level with some CBD oil under her tongue. she was calm again about 30min later.
i am not going to try and test it again. to prove or disprove. she had nothing else new. no meds, no therapies. this was all the vape.
i always questioned the wisdom of giving people with mental problems strains that have anxiety as a side effect, but amnesia had made the list. there were/are a few more on the list that don’t make sense. but not all people get the same effects, so we grow them out and test them.
she had unexpected negative side effects from northern lights as well. got all agro/angry. might have been the knock off genetics, but i am wary about testing it again. i have better cuts now (thanks @JustANobody ) so will see about getting to them in the fall.
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i realized i never put my perspective on Amnesia (Haze) Fast. so here it is.
My Perspective:
Amnesia Fast from Seedsman is predominantly sat leaning. vigorous and healthy growth for entire grow. very easy grow in my opinion. give it good soil and nutes and it will do the rest. just keep it watered. it got pretty thirsty in flower. pretty good stretch. it had lots of flower nodes, close together. excellent leaf to bud ratio. trim was a breeze. the flowers weren’t big, but very plentiful.
had some odd odors coming off it in flower. seemed to switch a lot. i kept rubbing it trying to figure out what it really smelled like. i honestly can’t give you a good answer. some days it smelled sweet. some days it smelled like vics vapo rub. i also can’t really give you a good flavor report for this other than “overall pleasant”. the high is pretty strong. and in my opinion lives up to it’s namesake. i will smoke this stuff, get stupid high, have a great idea, get up to go do it, but by the time i get to where i’m going, i have forgotten what the hell i was doing and have to retrace my steps to catch the thought again. it’s an upbeat high, you want to do something if you could remember what it was. this effect lasts a while. other than that little issue, the high is pleasant. hits front, back and body. it does have pretty good painkill properties. thankfully it doesn’t have any of the racy sativa effects i dislike. but it certainly spun abuela’s world up.
i don’t reach for this jar often - despite it being nice and strong, it does make me completely retarded. i need to function most of the day. i can’t smoke this and be truly functional (i know my limitations… lol) this would be a great strain to take fishing… baked out of your gourd, casting, reeling and casting again. drinking beer. catching fish. nothing else to do and no need for higher brain function(s). (God that sounds like a good day doesn’t it?)
anyways, parting thoughts - this is a strong strain. it probably doesn’t have the highest THC on the planet, but it’s effects are more debilitating IMO and best suited for recreational use. it IS good for pain, i will give it that, so i suppose there is that excuse… lol.
Coming Up Next:
going to change gears and roll back to Purple Kush. this time will test the Kannabia cut from spain. of the 3 purple kush cuts i grew last summer, i would consider this one the best. will see how it works on abuela.
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Strain Test Update:
been testing (Kannabia) Purple Kush on abuela this week. thankfully no negative side effects like the amnesia. as expected, it had kush characteristics, very relaxing, but as i have said elsewhere, this Kannabia cut was vastly superior to the others.
this was a difficult week for testing (aren’t they all now?), as she had multiple doctor visits and even a trip to the ER, but there were certainly takeaways worthy of note. for a kush, this particular cut has a really good cerebral effect. the effect for this is no where near the candyland, acapulco gold or blue dream kind of response. but it is greater than most of the kush strains. this is much more of an afternoon strain for winding down. but it can work during the day, just have realistic expectations… it is a kush.
her mood was good/agreeable for the most part. she did have some good smiling and laughing moments. and actually told some contextual jokes/made funnies. pretty cool. the cerebral effect described did in fact help a bit with the cognition - making complete sentences that made sense, responding properly to questions and contextual events. again, not as brightly as some of the others we have tested, but certainly worthy of note. it’s effects were somewhat similar to OG Kush with the spark being there in the eyes. she is aware, but not necessarily articulating as such. it’s good to see the spark still there from time to time.
since she had a really busy week, she was tired, which of course a kush will be more than happy to push you over the edge into some nice warm/fuzzy Zzz time. this has been the one kush (tested so far) that has enough of that cerebral component to prevent that slip over the edge. an interesting note.
From My Perspective:
of the 3 PK’s i grew out last summer, this one was in my opinion the best. the plant was healthy, easy to grow. loved the sun. did have some issues with the thrips and mites, but did better than most at bouncing back after treatment(s). in flower, there were lots of colas sites. the flowers weren’t the biggest, but they represented very well for a PK. the trim job on this one was far less intensive as the others. PKs are notorious leafy/trim nightmare plants. this one wasn’t as bad. the fragrances were what you would expect of a good PK. incense, earth a hint of sweet. those flavors are present in the smoke as well. quite tasty. best tasting of the 3. this was also the only PK that actually turned purple regardless of the temps at night. would happily grow again. got 4 seeds left.
takeaways from the smoke are good flavors, with a cerebral high up front and nice relaxing kush effects in the back end and body. this one just feels clean and old school. it lasts. it’s not super potent like many modern strains, but it’s enough and the staying power is the nicest touch. not something common in some of the modern stuff.
overall, i’m happy with the kannabia cut. i could see it was different/better as they were all growing out last summer. it didn’t disappoint and lived up to my expectations of what it was displaying.
Coming Up Next:
this week, i will be (re)testing Strawberry Lemonade from barney’s farm on abuela. this is a sat leaner. i was ambivalent about this plant growing it, but grew a great deal of respect for it as the season went on. it’s flower phase was pretty impressive. colors. lots and unexpected. i was also pleasantly surprised the first time i sampled it. it’s quite nice. our earlier testing showed some positive results, but the reason for re-test is twofold :
- to confirm earlier results with better test equipment
- to confirm or deny entry to the pantheon of strains i will continue to grow out for her.
til next time
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Strain Test Update:
been testing (Barney’s Farm) Strawberry Lemonade on abuela this week. had a relatively positive testing phase. she was alert, awake, good mood. some good things to report with cognition, but sadly there were some negative side effects as well.
we noticed that she would get a little “hot” with flushed face.
and the last day of testing with the very last bowl, she got a bit of an anxiety attack. no where near the severity of the amnesia. we didn’t need to give her CBD this time to calm her down. just loosened up her clothing and got her some air, she chilled out.
if we had not had that episode, i would have given it favorable marks with the note of the reddening. my wife thinks a re-test down the road as it did work 6.5 days out of the week. the cognition had some seemingly good effects from this. almost complete awareness moments where she was aware that she had some health issues and wanted to be back to “normal” (not sure if completely the ganj as we do test other things (supplements, vitamins, medications))
we are dialing something in … been getting the spark to come back. it’s been absent for a bit.
i may re-test this down the road, but some things are almost done with cure and others are still waiting their turns. the cognition was a good note, but the overheating and anxiety are negative effects. so weird to have it present on the last day like that when it had not presented before.
From My Perspective:
this was an easy plant to grow. i was completely ambivalent about it as i’m (personally) not a big sativa leaner fan but this one changed my mind about a lot of things. i didn’t pay it the extra care i paid to others. it forgave my errors and grew up and finished very nicely. the colors in flower were very pretty. the smells were unique and interesting in flower. after a good cure when i finally decided to try it, i was very pleasantly surprised. it tasted good, the high was very well balanced and it didn’t have any of those racy effects i dislike from sativas. flavors were extremely subtle on the strawberry and citrus. if either fruit i would say it tasted more of strawberries (however subtle) than lemons. just a hint of a skunky kick in there. overall pleasant and smooth.
i would grow it again, but it’s not topping the regrow list… but it makes the list regardless. it’s good daytime smoke.
Coming Up Next:
this week, i will be testing (Seedsman) Green Crack Auto. i could never get my hands on fems or regs of GC so went with what i could get. autos it was. i have grown this one out before and we tested, but in gummy format. that test was completely inconclusive and probably the first year i started growing. so it made the re-test. will see how it does in vape format. it sure smells nice in the jar. supposed to be mango flavored and abuela LOVES mango. hope she digs this one and it works well for her.
til next time
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Strain Test Update:
Been testing (Seedsman) Green Crack Auto on Abuela this week. somewhat like the gummy test about a year ago, this really seems a neutral strain for her. she was more “up” for her therapies and such, but not to the degree of others we have tested. there were no negative side effects which is really good, but there weren’t any blindingly positive effects either.
one would really expect SOMETHING with a name like green crack…
my observations was a neutral but my wife and the caregiver give it a thumbs up as she was agreeable to her therapies on the GC. so will defer to their judgement as abuela being a pain in the balls when it comes time for therapies is an important checkbox.
From My Perspective:
the name “green crack” certainly can give you some negative ideas, but thankfully doesn’t really live up to it’s namesake. it’s actually predominantly indica, so it’s primary effects are quite relaxing. it smells nice and tastes nice too. they say it’s supposed to smell and taste like mangoes… but… i think it falls a bit short. granted, these are autos so there is already a questionable mix to the genetics, but i had to go with what i could get my hands on.
the plant was an easy grow. vigorous, strong, stanky and sticky. the smells and flavors are pleasant as is the high. i expected it to be more cerebral, but it is not. pretty well balanced, but leaning more towards relaxing indica. it’s pretty strong. overall pleasant.
Coming Up Next:
planning on circling back to finish up with (Seedsman) Critical Purple Kush. i ran 3 different purple kush last summer to see which one works best. so far, Kannabia has been the clear winner, but must give CPK it’s time in testing to finish off the trio. let’s see what CPK can do.
til next time
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I apologize I’m new to the forum and I don’t have the patience to read through the thread so I’m just going to add here hope this isn’t redundant.
Personally I think the best cannabinoids for healing are acidic THCa, CBDA and CBGa specifically ingesting them in their full spectrum form. It’s simple to make an acidic tincture. Simply top off jar with flower add carrier oil. Cook at 167 for 3 to 31/2 hrs. This should fully extract the cannabinoids with minimal decarboxylation. I learned about this temp and cook time from a study done by ardent.
I think there has been some research that also showed that CBN has shown potential to help with dementia/Alzheimer’s.
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Excellent info here Sandfarmer. This seems worth following up on, and maybe even @Til_Valhalla might try making a full spectrum tincture for abuela.
Your instructions say “Cook at 167 for 3 to 3 1/2 hrs”, curious is that listed in degrees Fahrenheit or Celsius?
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