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Hm. That’s interesting. I don’t think anybody suggested lacewings back when I got aphids for those couple rounds a few years ago. I remember rove beetles and… something else that I don’t remember haha. But I’ll have to remember lacewings.

I knoooowwwwww… I actually barely ever use my phone for OG or anything other than making phone calls and sending texts, but I had to do that “Edward Hooper” post yesterday with my phone because that’s what I took the picture with. Took me foreverrrrrr haha.

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Predators are so cool… they kick ass too… i cant grow without em…

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Thats a hell of a tk lineup we got in here, cant wait to see how they develop in the new few weeks! Looking good…

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I’m loving the look of those buds :green_heart:

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I’ve never smashed a lacewing before but I have heard that they exude some kind of self defense odor. Not sure if it’s the green , brown, or if both do it. I’ve yet to smell it so I can’t say from experience.

I’ve seen both green and brown lacewings here before, but what I got on the cards was green lacewings, yes. Brown lacewing adults do feed on pests but I think they are a bit more sensitive to environmental conditions. Pretty sure they like cooler temperatures and don’t do well in greenhouses.

I’ve been told they are supposed to have a very painful bite but have never been bitten by an adult or a larvae after at least 10 years of using them.

I don’t know how effective they would be in a tent setup. The most effective predator for aphids that I’ve encountered has been predatory wasps such as Aphidius colemani. Hoverfly larvae are good too. Lacewings probably work OK but I’ve never seen them dramatically reduce populations like the wasps do.

I don’t know as much about rove beetles. I’ve seen them in my soil and compost but never introduced them intentionally. I always assumed they hung around in the soil and mulch layer. Do they really get up in the canopy to feast on aphids?

I have a lot more experience using predators on non-cannabis plants than cannabis, but agree they are a really nice approach. If I had a cheap, viable, local supply of nematodes I’d use them a lot more. Shipping on beneficials can be demoralizing at times, especially in either weather extreme.

Yeah, I’m looking forward to comparing the TK S1 phenos that we find!

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Is tk a little bit slower vegging plant for you @syzygy I’m growing some triangle kush x Chem del la chem f2 and seeing about half the plants are rather slow going just wondering if that’s a common trait with her

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I don’t think the TK, Triple Sunshine or any of the CSI TK stuff is what I would consider slow. If anything the TK & TS have a fair bit of vigor which annoys me because it translates to maintenance on the mothers. My perspective may be skewed though because I’ve been juggling so many plants and haven’t even had the cut for a whole year. Anyone else holding her feel free to chime in and contradict me.

TK does seem to take longer to root than anything that I have, but sometimes if the plant is in good health and environmental conditions are right she roots normally too… I think I’m averaging 4 weeks rooting on the TK (30ish days give or take). Seems to take off fine once transplanted though.

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Appreciate it! very might of added a bit too much ewc to my mix and stunted them or might be some inbred genetic stuff coming up in the line seeing cldc has some tk in its genetic makeup there overall healthy seeing all the tk stuff lately all over og has made my hyped to try something with it :joy:

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I thought about that when I mentioned it, that maybe they just don’t “work” indoors, for whatever reason.

That’s interesting. I’m not sure what kind of wasps these were, but when my “pollinator attractor” flowers outside were thriving, there were always these tiny wasps hovering and crawling all around them when they’d bloom. I wonder if there were aphids on the flowers and maybe that’s why the wasps were there, too.

Doesn’t matter anyway. I trashed the entire planter after the whole “bee sting incident” with the new pup. Now we’ve just got this sad, empty planter sitting there, doing nothing haha.

Exactly.

I think that maybe the idea was that they eat the larvae in the soil? Or something? I’m not sure.

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At the facility I work at we occasionally bring in rove beetles for thrips. They do spend some time in the canopy. Though usually 3-4 days after release they are nowhere to be seen.

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Yeah these parasitic wasps can be tiny. Aphidius colemani (Aphid parasitoid) are about the size of a fungus gnat. Eretmocerus eremicus (whitefly parasitoid) are even smaller (less than 1mm).

Ahh so more of a long term approach hoping they eat up anything that may be overwintering in re-used soil. Probably not a bad idea if you’re running plants in the same pots/soil perpetually.

I’ve seen pictures of rove beetles on foliage before but never in person, that’s kind of cool to hear! Do you guys use any other interesting predators? I’m interested in that crazee mite (Anystis baccarum) listed on evergreengrowers website, but they aren’t shipping outside Oregon yet.

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Where do they go??? Haha. Seriously, though, why do you think they leave? Just because they ate everything and moved on to the next aphid-infested place?

Yeah, that was the idea, but

I trashed all of the soil in those pots I was flowering in and just mixed up some new shit, added it to the rest of my bins. No need to even risk it, better safe than sorry, all that stuff…

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Different types of Whiteflies on tomatoes



Eretmocerus eremicus

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These are definitely the ones I’ve been dealing with in the 4x4 flower tent :confused:

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You’re still dealing with them?

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Yep, sadly. Only in that tent tho. Might get the citric acid out or something :thinking:

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Gawd… Damn you… Haha.

Great pics, even if some of them are of bad things. The eighth and ninth ones… Shit.

I have got to invest in a new camera.

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@syzygy the triple sunshines are chugging along in the whiskey barrel bed :+1:

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Awesome, thanks for sharing! Leaf shape looks a bit different than I would have expected but with time they may still thin out a bit.

Or just a new lens. I think having a good lens is more impactful than a newer camera, assuming you already have a DSLR / mirrorless.

That sucks… I’d go scorched earth if it happened here. I don’t have the patience to fight pests like that for extended periods of time haha. Other than fungus gnats of course…

Here’s my Trip Sun (F1) peaking over a 7’ fence. I think the plant is around 10-12’ tall give or take a foot. Think it’s getting too much light during the dark hours to really flower. The TK next to it is flowering though, but not as tall.

Applied some nematodes that I bought locally today. Seeing a few fungus gnats here and there. May buy some more Gnatrol if the nematodes don’t work.

TK also starting to yellow on the lowers. Top dressed with a big scoop of alfalfa pellets a day or 2 ago.

and more gardening shots

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Only two are triple sunshine. Two others are the gelato x hp and the middle is my first cross of the purple lemon Thai x the garlic pickle Kali Mist male I found. It’s fun to see the hybrid vigor I’ve heard about.

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