Irene and Bubba didn’t seem worth keeping to me for their own reasons, but both had some really nice traits at the same time as well. I thought Irene was a more annoying plant than TK in my setup, mostly because of how long it took to get going. Smells were pretty nice on both but I have smelled a handful of plants that smell like Irene before. The cocoa smell on the bubba was a bit novel for me. I don’t think I’ve encountered that much, if at all. Effects weren’t what I was looking for or expecting, however it did produce high quality flowers.
Thanks, HaHa!
Yeah of course, and I’m not an influential person nor am I trying to influence anyone’s opinion by posting my thoughts on it.
I think I’m in the minority here on OG of the people who have tried it and was left unimpressed. I wasn’t blown away by any of the smoke from the 3 females I found from seed either. Hearing the opinions of other local growers who have not been primed by hype has been interesting in the Lav Jack case. None of these people know who NN or Bodhi are, and have never been exposed to any reviews of the strain (including mine).
The nature of my initial comment was going to be that no matter how bad the GSC or GG4 x SSDD turn out I’ll be shocked if they are as disappointing as the Lav Jack line. I’m assuming both varieties will have some photogenic females that make great photography subjects in a worst case scenario. I’m even open to popping more Lav Jacks at a future date just to look for some cool ornamental / fragrant plants, but I won’t have any expectations of finding an uplifting sativa hybrid in effects.
I don’t think being a contrarian is a personality trait I struggle with but maybe that’s just me being a contrarian again… Neither disagreement or differing opinions make me feel uncomfortable though.
Amen. At the end of the day I do I agree with this. It’s even applicable to other plant traits like smell too. We can only try to do as good of a job as possible communicating our experiences, but even that doesn’t act as a substitute for growing the plants out for yourself and forming your own opinion.
Another vote for liking the Lav Jack here. But, I’m not trying to convince anyone to like or dislike it. I believe it was selected for it’s ability to be easy to grow, impressive bag appeal, crazy terps, and it’s an easy money maker. I think it’s high is pretty good, but it’s one of the one’s that I do not get much feedback on… for whatever reason.
One really unique thing that I haven’t run across before, is that it’s so “terpy” (i hate using that word), that the terps are evaporating, and forming grease around the inside of the jar lid, where the rubber meets the glass, and even some on the inside lid of the jar… pretty cool! I’ll see if I can get a picture later. Another thing, is I think the Lav Jack has gotten better with age, I like I now more than when it was fresh…
Have you found any lines/strains that you do feel these effects from?
I don’t think you are… there’s no right answer, right? Though, I wouldn’t classify the Lav Jack as trash weed, as I’ve smoked way worse… but when you have the option of growing something you really do like, you might as well do it.
Seems to line up on all those points I assume (I don’t sell).
Always pics, yes please. Can never have enough!
Not that many really. I’d say the closest thing is the TK we are holding. Sun Ra (SFV x W15) cedar pheno was up there too, as well as a few Goji OG phenos.
A big problem as we discussed at some point in either this thread or my past is that my expectations are based on stuff I’ve read via Holland banks (marketing) and ICMag reviews. I’ve never had Jack Herer before but a lot of what I read seemed very similar to the effects of a good OG. Uplifting feel good social bud without paranoia or anxiety.
I agree, I’m not sure if I ever called it trash, but if I did then that was probably a bit harsh, hyperbolic, and incorrect. My reaction is that it is disappointing because of how nice the plant traits overall are. Same can be said for the sativa looking pheno I found - I was expecting coffee but what I got was Nyquil with artificial coffee flavoring. Other than the effects that one was a really cool plant too. I think the NN cut absolutely had more production value though.
Yeah, I can definitely see that. It’s hard to not be intrigued by stories of very uplifting and energizing strains, even if some of it is marketing BS. I’ve sampled a bit of plants purported to be “sativa”, and while they definitely have different effects (on me), none of them have made me feel quite like what I’ve read online from seedbanks, or reports online. Not to say they don’t exist, but I haven’t smoked them yet. That won’t stop me from trying out more of them though!
haha, nah, i didn’t mean to imply that you said that. I guess I meant that, if the average weed smoker were to look at the Lav Jack, they would probably say it’s more towards the “good weed” end of the spectrum, than “bad weed” end. It is psychoactive, it taste pretty good, it looks and smells good, I think your average smoker would be impressed. But we’re not the average weed smokers around here. We are the 1%er’s of weed smokers, and we have to option to grow and smoke whatever we’re interested in, a luxury not many people get to experience. Also, your experience with the lav jack just goes to show, can’t read a book from it’s cover and all that… just like I’ve found that often the most densely trichome covered flowers, don’t often produce strongest effects…
Yeah! It tripped me out when i first discovered it, i thought something had gotten inside the jar or something. But, then I squeezed a little bit of the grease with my fingers and it was really tacky and smelled strongly of the Lav Jack terps… seems like they are evaporating, and then condensate again around the rim and lid. I wonder if i could collect enough to try to smoked some of it??
Yeah, I’d agree with that. We are blessed in that we can be picky and try different things that we may not like without it negatively affecting us. I’d much rather try a bunch of new things out and risk disappointment than run the same clone every cycle year after year. Nothing wasted anyways, always someone going through hard times that can make use of it.
For sure. I don’t dabble in the sativa realm often but a few did hit like the haze reviews read (Malawi, certain Kali mist phenos). I wasn’t a big fan of those, but the OG-type of effects and 90s (assumed) Mexican was really nice to me. Not sure if those would be considered sativa, sativa hybrid or whatever.
Forgot to comment on this but ya, that was pretty much my day today. Was awesome for sure. Dogs were more fun than the plants but both were cool. Still is an awesome experience for me to walk under the canopy of the 10+’ tall Triple Sunshine.
Yeah, dude, I don’t think you’re divisive, either, @syzygy haha! I was just commenting on ramblin’s post. Honestly, I didn’t even know that Lavender Jack was a “divisive” hybrid until he said something haha. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was, though. People like to argue about everything…
I mean, those plants were obviously not the same as that cut that’s going around, so… Yeah. It’d make sense that you weren’t as thrilled with the smoke from those plants as people have been with that one cut. I thought that one really “Sativa”-looking one with the massive cola and insane calyx-to-leaf thing you grew looked pretty great, kinda disappointing that she didn’t work out for you, but whatever.
Aaaand we’re back! Back to talking about the Lavender Jack! How do we always get back to this?!? haha.
Whenever I used to eat acid, I’d find myself kind of talking in these sort of “circles,” where whatever we were talking about would always come back to this one thing, like,”See??? It all comes back to that!”Same thing with this gawddamn Lavender Jack.
It always comes back to the Lavender Jack. That’s got to mean something, right? Right?!? Haha…
Is that what that is? I’ve seen that on the lids of some of my jars before and was like,”What the fuck is this? Maybe I shouldn’t smoke the weed in these jars anymore…” I thought it was maybe some kind of defect with the lids or, uh… I dunno.
Well it’s something many of us here have tried before and it’s interesting to compare thoughts on it. I’ve seen in the past on forums these types of conversations devolve into debates about the legitimacy of cuttings or belittling others for not having standards as high as you when these sorts of topics come up. Iamyou has grown far more clone only “elites” than I have and has also grown out one of my favorite plants that I found (triple sun), yet he is a fan of the LJ as you can see above. Hearing @ramblinrose get effects from it that are nothing like what I got is also interesting.
To me it just reinforces the subjectivity of all of this and highlights the need to try things out for yourself. I never thought that I would have liked TK based on what I read prior to growing it out, yet here we are.
Lavender Jack lid hash smoke report incoming. See?? It all comes back to LJ.
Oh, yeah, dude, I was just kidding around. I mean, it really did make me think of pretty much every acid trip I’ve had, where we alllllways coooome back to this thing we were talking about, but honestly, I was just fucking around.
Always. Fuck everybody else, no matter how much you like them haha.
Photo dump before I leave - love how the TK is looking this round so wanted to get some more shots. TK S1 #2 and 5150 #1 both are looking pretty similar to the TK as well.
Had the same experience here with TK… it’s sooo nice. I mainly vape and haven’t run into an overwhelming come-up… maybe a couple big bong rips would bring that effect. For many years I thought I wouldn’t like the chem line either from things I read and turns out it’s nice enjoyable pot haha.
Triple Sunshine - buds looking a lot smaller than usual this run to me. Will compare to pictures of previous runs @ this stage later on. Still I’d say it’s the frostiest in the tent. TK is pretty frosty as well though.
Are these some of the ones that’re being grown in coco after previously being grown in soil?
So you went with the GG4 thing? I must’ve missed that haha. This fucking job, man… I reeealllyyy don’t like the way it allows me very little time to spend on OG haha.
Why are the seedlings so “stretchy,” you think? I’ve seen that on a ton of people’s logs over the years, never understood it.
All the Triple Sunshine and TK clones are in coco this run, yes. I’ve run them in soil in the past. TK seems to be performing a bit better in coco this round than the TS, whereas TS seemed to outperform the TK in soil (for me).
I did 4 x SSDD, 4x GSC x SSDD, 4x GG4 x SSDD - I’ll probably toss the 1 or 2 of the GG4 x SSDD seeds as I’ve seen a fair amount of runts in gg4 crosses before and they aren’t worth keeping.
They are in a humidity dome that didn’t get opened up for some time (few days) because I don’t always check on them. Humidity dome helps retain moisture creating a kind of buffer for neglect. Also they are under a very weak light and have no air movement around them. Stretchy seedlings don’t bother me, they’ll correct themselves with time. I did remove the humidity dome today because they were touching the top of it. Hopefully I’m able to transplant them into small pots / coco in a few days.
If you do, consider chopping them a bit earlier with more clear trichs and no amber? That should increase chance of an uplifting high vs a stoned effect.
Actually a local grower gave me a bag of earlier harvested Lav Jack (nn) a few months ago. It was not uplifting and the later stuff did not have a stoned effect either. It just makes me tired - that’s it.
Looks like PM is starting on some of the outdoor stuff. Definitely on the Cucurbits and probable on the Cannabis. Actually looks like it may just be dried bird crap as there are tons of birds hanging out on the plants lately (and feathers all over the plants) but doubt it’s all that. May or may not pull them impulsively.
The stuff on the pics of the Vanilluna looks like it could be something other than PM, maybe dried bird shit and water spots or something. But it’s probably PM haha. That sucks, man, sorry. Did you do any sort of IPM-type thing when they were vegging? I can’t remember. I dunno if that would’ve helped, just curious.
That pic of whatever that white flower is with the bee flying away is fucking incredible. I mean, they all look good, but that bee pic is insane.
Yeah, it looks a bit off and different from PM that I’m used to seeing with how defined it is. I don’t think I’ve ever had to deal with PM on our favorite herb before though so that’s why I’m not very confident. I’ve seen a fair amount of PM on non cannabis plants over the years though. It could be a few things but is probably PM regardless. The PM actively on the Cucumber looks much different in person right now.
It’s been fluctuating between hot / humid and unusually cold the past few weeks. Currently we’re in another heatwave and it’s going to dip low again next week. I expect issues to get significantly worse within a week or 2 but we’ll see. I don’t mind culling if needed because I don’t need flower anyways.
Next year if I grow outside I’ll try a few sulfur sprays and read through the PM thread here by @JoeCrowe - seems to be a trove of good info there. Been meaning to read through it anyways for a while now and I have a good excuse to start reading from the beginning when I get a bit more time to sit still and read.
I’m glad I didn’t bring in any Vanilluna cuttings and will probably treat the indoor moms I have just to be safe in the near future.
Thanks! Bees seem to really like the Pentas (white flower) this year.
