They look like they could maybe go another week, I think? I don’t see very much amber in those macro shots, except in one of the pics of the Triple Sunshine. If I was capable of getting closeups, I always thought that I’d probably chop when there was 5% amber or maybe ten percent max, but yours don’t look like they’re even at 5% yet.
Pretty interesting.
I finally just said,”Fuck it, you’re being a dick by not at least checking out SlowToes’ thread…” and started following it yesterday, but I only scrolled through the last maybe thirty posts, haven’t read the whole thing from the start yet. Is this that Maze thing that you’re growing? That shit looks crazy (in a good way), whatever it is haha.
You already know this, but it’s because most people aren’t informed consumers, whether it be weed or anything else. I mean, it isn’t hard for me to tell the difference between weed that looks the way it does because it was grown poorly and weed that looks the way it does because that’s just the way it’s gonna look.
Personally, that picture of the Malawi Gold you posted excites me haha, even though, like you said, most people would turn their noses up at it.
Amen to this. Funny how ‘good’ everything looks now. I was just with a friend who is all on the new/hyped stuff and it all looks amazing, smells insane, but consistently he says something like “I don’t know what it is about your stuff but I’m fu***d up.” Whateva. Something something genetics.
Aw. Buddy. You didn’t have to haha thanks though. Sometimes it’s coherent, sometimes I bitch about nothing. Likely anything worth sharing will find its way out of my thread, but I sure as hell don’t know what everyone likes. So thanks.
Yes that is the maze from budderton. It’s a beast of a plant and I’m curious how it will fill in and look by the end of it all. I let it veg for far too long and then thought “it’ll be fine” when I flipped it. Aside from the tops pretty much going past the light, it being too hot, and being rootbound, it turned out okay. Had to supercrop it during stretch at basically every node of every branch but you’ve just gotta make it work sometimes when you want to grow a 20 week plant next to SSDD f2…
Man. What a treat if you both pop some shortly-ish. Very exciting viewing for this guy. No one asked but I’m popping some double Viet black x Oaxaca (from upstate) come January and will continue this long flowering journey with you all
I don’t know what that is - I’m guessing it’s the landrace team? I’m not a landrace guy so excuse my ignorance. Your shot looked just like my friends flowers though.
edit clicked the link and saw it is The Landrace Team - cool stuff. Will read into that as we get closer to growing it out!
That would be cool! I’m a while away from the point that I’d be flowering any malawi as well. I have the seedlings (GSC x SSDD , GG4 x SSDD, SSDD) still that I have to go through.
That’s where I first read about the whole 12/12 from seed thing. I’m a fan of that style for sure!
I gave away some TK clones today so space has opened up. I’ll start germinating the malawi at least shortly.
All of the seed plants of narrow leaf stuff I grow goes into 11/13 at 10ish days, just always done them that way If I take cuttings, I know how big they’ll get and can veg accordingly.
I like that too but I think if I have time to do it from clone it will possibly save me some unnecessary stretch. I have no experience growing landraces though so will be interested to see how they perform in coco / small pots. My friend told me not to let them get rootbound, but he may assume I’m growing these organically.
On the topic of bag appeal : Was given a jar of Lav Jack & a jar of some bagseed found from Michigan “Zkittles” . Will probably try the zkittles jar tonight after I get home. Smells remind me of early 00 bud. Definitely has bag appeal to it.
Hopefully I have time to take some pictures of the plants tonight when I get home. I still haven’t cut down the TS but they also aren’t in the tent - they’re kind of just sitting in the shadows…
No problem brotha, Maybe in the future you get an idea of something you’d like to make.
You are killing it on this lady. My guess would be the 20+ as the MG I ran was done at 14, 15+ if you wanted more amber.
I think it looks good brotha. I look forward to seeing when you run some again.
That would be a question for @Tejas. It might be in some way.
14 weeks but could have seen 16 if you really wanted to push her.
I vegged for 30 days under 18/6. I think in solo cup for 24 days, up potted them to 1 gallon for a little bit before I flipped. I ran them under 11/13 in 1 gallon poly bags.
How tall is your tent?
Both females I had like to stretch up into the 6-7th week If I remember correctly. I had to super cropped both multiple times to keep them under my lights in my 5x5. I found her to be manageable but with some work.
Here is what she looked like, Imagine 12 more inches on her as the poly bag is cut off.
You can kind of see the second knuckle on when I pitched her back under the light. Over time the weight of the buds brought her under the lights. I staked her for the photo.
The Kilimanjaro wasnt a big stretcher and very manageable. I have some seeds of them if your interested.
I dont have a reference point on any Laos yet. Hopefully in a couple years I will. I’d take his word for it if he say MG is more manageable. I think you will find a way to make it work brotha.
I think we need to trick them with a treat
Pre rolls of Malawi Gold will have them zapped in a way they have yet to experience.
I have grown KaliMist before (before tents existed, same area though) and did OK. A rooted cutting flipped immediately basically turned into a 3.5 - 4 ’ pole.
I just measured and with the carbon filter / light in the tent there is 50 inches from the top of a 1 GAL pot to the bottom of a cob - so yea, Ideally 3’-3.5’ of actually plant growth giving some distance from the lights.
TK - Really nice plant, glad I kept a mom of it. All around high quality.
TK S1 - Looks very similar to the tk mom - only about half the size and smaller buds. May perform better with a slightly larger cutting. Much more compact & shorter internode spacing when compared to the TK.
More Crazy Crocs / 5150 tk x TK #1 pictures - this one is smelling really good and even the soil test is starting to look nice. Looks a bit more like the TK in the soil test ( less unruly foxtails ). Both have superb calyx(bract) to leaf ratios.
I see a couple fans here and there… haha. That is pretty crazy, though, real cool.
So… What do you think that’s about? That the coco-grown stuff looks better than the soil-grown? Why do you think that is? I haven’t read enough about growing with salts to know why plants “perform” “better” when they are, but just from watching your switch from soil to coco, I’m starting to think that maybe I should consider doing the same… I dunno if I will, just because I’m lazy, but gawddamn, man… Plants look good.
The soil plant is the topped seed-plant and so it was always going to have more flowers that are smaller than if it were single stemmed. Makes me think of the Lav Jack jar that I was just given which has pathetically small buds. They were very healthy and it really just came down to the fact my friend did not prune them at all. I grew Lav Jack in a much smaller container of soil (7 GAL) and my buds were very large, but not because my soil was superior, more microbially active or anything like that. My friend’s soil is certainly higher quality than mine was and would be considered a more functioning living soil system. I was encouraged to prune them early on and I took that advice to heart (I do that anyways, but I was even more vigorous with my pruning than usual).
I think it would have been a bit closer if they were both grown from clone like the coco plant, but the thing about salt based fertilizers is that as long as you mix up the nutrients and they are in an acceptable PH range they can be taken up by the plants. This allows for uninterrupted growth, which is crucial. Also the ratios of the nutrients available are reliable and consistent when dealing with salts.
You run into limitations faster with organics - whether it’s the presence of food in the soil to the exudate / rhizosphere / microbial system at play which results in nutrients ending up in a plant available form. This issue becomes exaggerated in small pots when plants get root-bound with frequent dry-backs. I believe optimally functioning organic systems can perform fairly close to a synthetic feed, but also that very few if any grows done in controlled environments would rise to that level. Outdoors or in giant pots sure.
I know I’ve had experiences with certain genetics where I’ve grown a few clones side by side and the more stressed out and depleted looking plants have smelled substantially stronger with stickier trichomes. The whole topic of plant defense systems is interesting and I won’t discount it. My problem is, if the leaves are all getting necrotic by week 7 that isn’t very good either. This round the coco 5150 #1 plant smells much stronger than the soil plant.
I grow how I do in small pots because of the limited height situation, but I think if I had an extra 2-3’ of height I’d just end up getting a table & reservoir to put the plants on an automated drip system. I’ve always been a fan of the SOG style of growing and it seemed like one of the biggest drawbacks was always the plant count - back when having more than 10 plants was nerve-racking. Going to the hydrostore or ordering hydroponic media was another security risk. Now that it’s both legal and you can buy salts for less than organic amendments it’s a no-brainer. If I were growing in a greenhouse or outdoors I would approach this differently, but for closet / tent growing the superior choice is obvious…
At 5" / pot you can easily get 36 pots in a 3’ tent. Leaves can overlap a bit without consequence.
5x5 / 25 pots is even more comfortable and very doable.
even if you only do 4x4 that’s 16 plants without larf - allowing you to only grow desirable flowers with minimal veg - or - explore a lot more variety.
Some will perform better than others - but even smaller buds like the Triple Sunshine provide more than enough for home consumption.
Thanks! I use a Godox speedlight in the hotshoe of my camera and I put a Diffuser on it. Sometimes I use remote flash but not often. I did a few days ago to highlight the shape of the flowers better w/ some shadows here : - syzygy's journal - the clown show - #1858 by syzygy - everything else has just been using it directly.
haha thanks though. Sometimes it’s coherent, sometimes I bitch about nothing. Likely anything worth sharing will find its way out of my thread, but I sure as hell don’t know what everyone likes. So thanks.
Had to supercrop it during stretch at basically every node of every branch but you’ve just gotta make it work sometimes when you want to grow a 20 week plant next to SSDD f2…
If I take cuttings, I know how big they’ll get and can veg accordingly.
