It sure is! I’ve always wanted to grow a crazy ganja strain like this. Alien weed, lol. Until now I’d only seen stuff like this in photographs.
Thanks @GMan exotic is a great word for this stuff!
Is that Dwarf Oaxacan the BOEL variety?
It appears to me to be be a relic from German immigrants that moved to the area in the early 1800’s, but I can’t be sure. What I am nearly certain of is that it’s Lebanese genetics that caused this dwarf phenotype. Lebanese genetics were introduced in the 1830s more than likely, and then again by the brothers of eternal love sometime in the 70s. It would take some more research for me to know if this is a newer or older introduction of genetics, but I tend to think that it’s a very old introduction. Oaxacan has always been known for Pine and Cedar terpenes, and personally I believe that this came from the Lebanese introduction. Whether there was already a land race in Oaxaca at the time, or whether Lebanese is the land race that became oaxacan, I don’t know. If Lebanese was introduced nearly 200 years ago, the short stature would begin disappearing, and would become rarer and rarer as the landrace adapted to its new tropical climate. What I have been told by a Mexican preservationist friend is that the dwarf phenotype is very rare. I will be working on isolating this trait if I like the smoke. At the very least it’s a very interesting phenotype. Very manageable indoors and it will have a decent yield for its size. Had I known how short this particular plant would have remained, I would have put it in a bigger container earlier to try to get some more size to it.
The next step is to find out when the brothers of eternal love brought Lebanese genetics into Oaxaca. This collection is from the very early 70s, which I thought was before Lebanese was introduced (or reintroduced)
One thing to remember is that there were many farmers in Oaxaca growing ganja. It’s possible that the Lebanese entered the gene pool within the last 200 years. Yet, there are probably isolated areas in that region that continued growing without contamination. It’s definitely an interesting “cold case”, for sure.
I have a pack of BOEL Oaxacan x Dwarf Oaxacan from AKBB. This was what he told me about it:
The BOEL Oaxacan/Dwarf Oaxacan is a pure BOEL that was worked down to 14 weeks from 20 weeks. I bred that to a dwarf Oaxacan from Norstar genetics that goes 10 weeks. Flowers 10-11 weeks with an occasional long run pheno. It’s easy to grow not too stretchy.
Maybe that would be a good Freaker’s run.
cool map do you have a link to it?
i would almost think to find marijuana pollen anywhere on the planet would be like a needle in a haystack …so for so much to have been discovered it would lead me to believe cannabis was much more abundant in the past then now both wild and domesticated
Thanks. That bit of info explains a lot. I have some of those seeds. I am considering sprouting them and placing them outdoors, this summer.
It’s a very interesting Cold Case. The earliest I can definitely place any marijuana genetics in the western hemisphere is 1810. So if we were to go by that, then more than likely Lebanese IS oaxacan, which is why Lebanese crossed back to oaxacan by the brothers of eternal love was so fantastic . It was the ultimate back cross . But, I believe there was an earlier gene pool in this area of Mexico. Since Guerrero, Michoacan, and Oaxaca, along with the rest of the western Mexican states all grew fantastic ganja, and the eastern part of the country was not known for it, that leads me to believe that the original introduction of cannabis came from the West, not the East. ( thin evidence, i know)The spine of mountains running down the center of Mexico kept these genetics on the western side. So if cannabis was already in Mexico when the Germans brought cannabis from Lebanon, then like you said, there are probably pockets of the older land race. ( there is alot of variation in this landrace, from what Ive been told)You have to be a detective to figure this shit out LOL. But I have a lot of fun trying😁
I think so too. I think they just aren’t looking in the right places for pollen, or simply haven’t done enough looking. I can’t describe it, but this gene pool just seems ancient somehow.
That map comes from a book written by Robert Clark and some other guy can’t recall the name of it the moment. When I get home I’ll take a picture of the cover. That’s my source for the 1810 date. Certainly it must have come with the slaves or the sailors before this time, if not before the slaves themselves.
@TheShowMeHomie i cant find the Maps Source anymore. Upstate might be right telling its Robert Cark`s book.
Smoke report for Old Silversides Oaxacan…
Material used…finger hash from seed collecting
Dosage…one tiny hit, one big hit.
Method of smoking…glass pipe.
The effects crept up on me. Maybe 10 minutes for the full effects. This stuff is AMAZING!!!
Best anything I’ve smoked in years. EPIC head high, while wrapped in a warm blanket type of smoke. So high I was couchlocked for 90 minutes. Silent.
Not an Indica high. Just fried… and I mean FRIED. Watching television wide awake. I smoked at 9pm, after a very hard days work, and an hour of seed picking, planned to sleep shortly after my " little buzz" wore off.
I was awake until 11:30 lol. This is exactly the buzz I have been seeking for 25 years. It’s exactly like my old blueberry used to be in the early 90s. I now know that it was the oaxacan in the blueberry that was responsible for the fantastic high. Over the years that fantastic high slowly wore away. Still great pot, but not what it was 30 years ago. My climate doesn’t favor Oaxacan genetics outdoors.
The yield is going to be small on this one. Very small I fear, but I now know why Oaxacan is so legendary. Its kick ass!
Great smoke report. Finding that long lost buzz, the keys to the Millennium Falcon is something special. Enjoy!
That’s sounds so great!
The rest time I smoked my red Lebanese pheno mit was like that. Unfortunately not the next tjme!
I hope this oaxacan holds up!
May not be enough to build up any tolerance LOL. I hope it holds up too. The first year I had that blueberry it got me high every time I smoked it. An hour per hit…
I tried to post this book, but it’s too big, so here’s a Dropbox link:
Sounds really nice! Love the kind blueberry highs!
Thats looks like a thai stick type that went around in the 50’s and 60’s. A huge giant thick tree type with nothing but tiny sparse gold buds. Looks like at some point in time it may have been put to the oaxacans out there on the fields.
Is that the cryptic oaxaca ?