Um. There is and more states are trying to do it as of late with much pushback…
So i acknowledge my mistake and also…2 states with a 30 percent cap still doesn’t change the way my response applies to the post.
Thanks for the info!
I just watched a show about swazi gold and I believe is landrace just not the America’s landrace. I ve read 55-85 days flower is that wrong or do the American( north and south) strains take longer? Or did I read info on a probable hybrid?
His Punta Roja getting ripped off and S2’s popping up on the market was the final straw.
There was more shit, like ACE Seeds, but the PR being ripped off after he spent years to give Colombia back what it had lost was the nail in the coffin.
BOEL brought Oaxacan to Hawaii in 68, made their Lightning strain with it for Jimmi’s 69 concert.
When do you think Oaxaca hit the states? Before the 60’s or 60’s @Wuachuma
doesn’t texas have it at 15% for medical users?
What a bummer. Who ripped it off?
I hear its a fast one. Hybrid i think. I know I have at least one pack and maybe I have two. I would have dipped into them if I felt they were pure
These came in today, thanks so much @deeez99
That was pretty quick. Glad to hear they made it safely!
Received mine today as well. Ty
Purely conjecture on my part, but it looks like the first rounds of Indian indentured laborers arrived in Guyana around 1838. I wonder if there’s any connection.
Vermont’s an interesting example because the Control Board is asking the legislature to lift the 60% limit on solid concentrates, and I don’t think they put the 30% limit on flower in place to be really restrictive, they felt it was a realistic limit for most flower. They also wrote the regs to limit the opportunity for MSOs to takeover the market, etc.
I should probably shut up before anyone gets any ideas. It’s awful in Vermont, it’s ugly and we have no maple syrup.
Id say 50’s maybe, definitely by early 60s.
Im thinking a lot of the foxtailing sativa lines in America were from or related to Oaxacan.
My best guess, coming at this as usual from the perspective of someone without the most cannabis history knowledge, but a good political history education, is that Oaxacan cannabis likely came to the US in any significant amount with the Bracero Program the US started in 1942 to replace agricultural workers who had been drafted. From 1942 to 1964 over five million work permits were issued, mostly for agricultural and railroad workers. The Braceros were the first generation of Mexican farmworkers on special work visas, legal but highly exploited, as they would continue to be until the formation of the United Farm Workers in 1962 by Dolores Huerta, Cesar Chavez, and many others; one of the things the UFW organized against was the short hoe, which made fieldworkers bend over all day and destroy their backs.
https://www.redalyc.org/journal/151/15160667002/html/
Some of those Oaxaqueño Braceros were indigenous Mixtec as well:
According to historian David Romo, the first 1,500 Braceros in the US were brought through El Paso to Stockton, California arriving in September 1942, there weren’t a ton more agricultural workers until it ramped up in 1947. In Stockton they mostly worked sugar beets, and were housed in the county labor camp near Yountville. That group was mostly from Michoacan, according to this historical society clip:
This is a really cool digital preview of an archive of letters from family members in Mexico that never made it to the intended recipients working in Washington and Oregon in 1943. There was a box found in a postal facility that was sent to this archive, half of them are online. There’s 24 digitized letters and envelopes with postal markings, the first four are:
Torreon, Coahuila to Wapato, WA
Colima, Colima to Cashmere, WA
Zacatecas to Scappoose, OR
Mexico City to Yakima, WA
So all this to say: many Mexican landrace genetics probably started circulating in areas of the US post-1942, with agricultural and railroad guest workers under the Bracero Program and following ones. The railroad component of it also really makes you think about the brick weed trade and how that got started.
It seems like a lot of these workers came from rural areas, the agreement among historians seems to be that the Mexican government was happy to depopulate the poorest and most restless areas after the revolution, and cooperated with the US for the money and politics, but also for internal reasons, including wanting to get rid of indigenous Mexicans. @Motaco has a good old thread I’d recommend, and he points out that there’s a band where all the weed came from, and it’s the same band where Oaxacans and many other Braceros came from to the US as part of this program to support the war efforts during WWII and the Korean War. I think these guys were smart enough to bring some seeds to plant in Stockton, or Yakima, Texas, any other place they were sent.The more I look into and think about it, it seems just like theories many tend to support nowadays about the Muslim and Hindu sailor/laborers who may have brought indicas to South Africa and shortened the Transkei/Durban around 1880ish. Or Portuguese trading and whaler crews bringing many different genetics around the world in their travels, etc.
That was what I was worried about. Thanks for taking the time.
Very good info. For sure they would have brought some seeds or at least some seeded mota with them. And let us not forget that reefer madness was in the thirties…surely there was Mexican grass here by then…Pancho Villa puffed tough…in the teens…
Likely We will never know when it truly arrived.
I think you’re spot on. All I would really want from a dispensary would be some weed like I used to get back in the 80’s or 90’s. Before this endless mixing really took off. Why this is so hard to achieve is really beyond me. Can’t they just stick a handful of old school plants in the corner and let them go for 14-16 weeks? That’s what I would do, just to have the variety to offer my customers. But today it is all about money…and uneducated consumers. It isn’t the consumer’s fault either, when I say uneducated I just mean they haven’t been exposed to old school weed. Maybe they prefer the modern polyhybrids with 27% THC, and that is totally fine. I know my wife does, she usually hates my speedy sativas, hehe.