The Panic Attack Phenotype

@romanoweed
Well I did ask you to suggest a strong one for me. I’m smoking elephant tranquilizers. Do you have a landrace on that level?

There’s more to weed than just the high…

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my strongest experiences were with landraces were all mentioned. if i give you links is another question. anyone ready to trust me a bit or prservation intensions is welcome to ask me tho. in pm, i dont share highclass links to the public, because…by by

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@romanoweed
Feel free to message me links if you like. I will be thankful.
@GanjaMa
We use the term high, but it’s more about the way the bud makes us feel. Like me, you, or anyone else, we expect a certain performance from our smoke. Since every smoke doesn’t perform the same, we tend to only smoke certain strains.
I have a buddy that has smokes with me for years. About a year ago, he started picking up bud from a dispensary. He told me that he tried everything that the dispensary had available, however not any of it did him like my strain does.
He said yeah their bud is good, but it doesn’t deliver the feeling that he has grown accustomed to. So when he wants that feeling, he smokes with me.
So I do know how hard it will be to find something that smokes similar to mine. Eventually I will need an outcross so I’m looking for something that will get close That’s the reason i look for certain strains.
Its all good to me whatever someone smokes, as long as it works for them.

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Mind if I shoot you a pm? interested in the Columbian and Afghani, I made a thread about anti-anxiety strains and a few people recommended these and a few other landraces. Think I said something the other day but i’m down to repro and share, Just waiting to get another tent and light :upside_down_face:

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No disrespect intended at all @Blu-Tri but reading through your posts it seems a bit like you’re conflating the strength of the high with the quality of the high. The absolute strongest weeds imho tend to never have the best highs. Kind of like how dabbing tends to be a more unidimensional and flat experience compared to smoking well grown flowers. Sure it gets you high faster but some of the nuance is lost. The entourage effect tends to be more important than just route thc intoxication imo. That’s one of the reasons these landraces are so precious I think. Their unique terpene, phenol and cannabinoid profiles create singular and powerful experiences that, although they might not knock you on your ass immediately like a dab or some pollen chucked indica dom polyhybrid the overall high can be more unique and of higher quality.

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pm me of corse

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@api312
I understand completely what you are saying. I grew out …. A strain… which is very potent. But not to my liking. It pounded my forehead and temple relentlessly for hours. It was horrible.
Was it a poly hybrid chuck, quite possibly. Is that what made it potent… I don’t know.
I don’t give out the details of the Nympho, but she is along ways from being a poly hybrid. Her high was tailored to my likings.
When I acquire a strain, I expect it to be based on the breeder’s like. We all like different things. I respect your likes, as well as anyone else’s.
I have multiple potent strains that were exceptional. And I have had just as many that where crap. But I don’t go around passing judgement in either direction because we like what we like.

It is definitely true that people react differently to different strains.
My neighbor is a medical user, and he likes super high thc sativas. I have smoked 30+% sativas with him, and for me, I end up pacing the floor, if I don’t do something active like take a walk, bike ride etc. That is fine if that’s what I want, but this is the sort of energy that could lead to discomfort if you didn’t realize you just smoked a ludicrously strong pure sativa haha.
My med user neighbor says he gets nothing of the sort, it chills him out. Another neighbor says it makes him paranoid.

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No I meant cause you said you get too high and start giving away your worldly possessions :laughing:

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@Slick1
It’s all good brother.
Getting too high is just a part of my learning tolerance.
Now that I know where my tolerance is, rarely exceed it.
Even when smoking new strains, I only smoke until I reach my tolerance level.
Then I note how much of a specific strain that it took to get me there.
I also pay attention to how long that strain kept me on my preferred level.
The effects of the come down also matter.
People say stuff like autos do this, but I assure you just like photos, not ever auto is the same.
It the breeder that makes the difference in the strain.

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it seems to me that the most important factor is terpene profile. not really indica or sativa.

earthy terps are apparently the most medicinal/least panic inducing terps.

i honestly don’t think i’ve had weed that was ‘earthy’… must be rare??

anyone who can recommend terpene profiles for anti anxiety/depression/pain/etc.?

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I think terpenes are important to be sure. I like limonene a lot, and even will sometimes put a little grapefruit essential oil on my wrist (lots of limonene) if I am going to a heavy smoke session. But I also think the specific cannabinoid balance is important too, the ratios of all the different cannabinoids (particularly CBD but also others) I think has as much or more effect as the terpene profile. And of course both are affected not just by genetics and growing conditions, but also by when the plant was harvested in its flowering, how it was dried, cured and stored etc.

This is why it can be so hard to get a consistent experience, as there are a huge amount of variables that are hard to control for.

I seen where someone posted something about neem oil. I would worry about hot peppers. But that is interesting. CHS

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As someone with a neurological issue making me prone to serious bouts of anxiety to the point of seizure-like activity from time to time, especially when smoking the wrong strain, here’s my 2 cts:

look for these flavors:

pine, grape, coffee, caramel, mango, lime, lemon, lavender, cloves (caryophyllene)

in strains that have sedative qualities, most are gonna be Indica leaning hybrids.

BUT, not all. Good Sativa’s to give a try wood be Acapulco Gold, Silver haze, Lemon haze, Mango haze, Dedoverde haze, Chemdog, and the less energizing thai varieties.

In my experience, cheese and pineapple varieties are highly prone to causing anxiety. That’s weird cause I love cheese and pineapple on my pizza and that would never give me anxiety.

But the thing is, any of these strains I just mentioned might cause YOU to react badly. The Acapulco is probably anyones best bet for a soothing Sativa is my guess. And most people who have smoked it instantly love it for it’s mellowed out vibes and slightly nutty flavor.

Indica strains are great, but some can be so hard-hitting it can induce anxiety as a result. Strains that work for me with little limits are:

Strawberry Kush
Cookies Kush
White Widow
Grapegod
Bubba Kush
Hindu Kush
Tahoe Cure

And with only smoking a little bit of it:
Bad Azz Kush
Lavender
Trainwreck

Hope you find what you’re looking for!

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It’s funny you have White Widow on your list of calm ones cause if I overdo it with WW it’s one of the first strains that come to mind that can give me a bit of anxiety. In smaller doses it’s nice if I keep moving or focus on something, it’s actually the strain that comes to mind immediately when I think “I need to clean this house”. I really like it when I get the dose right and can get shit done but overdoing can be a bit uncomfortable. Just goes to show how different strains can effect people differently.

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Apple cider vinegar and a few drops of dawn dish soap is what I’m switching too. The concept is that that plant uses the neem oil to produce oils in flower. Cleaning radiation from the soil… yet radiation is not a nessesary nutrient the plant would need. So with that in mind. Think 35 years of acid rain, nuclear problems on a global scale. Re-useing soil would be a must and it would get salty, so im looking to switch to living organic soil with careful selected ingredients.

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I see where you are going with this. But this is true for many of the strains on that list, only the ones I listed in the “only a bit” category, tend to catch me by surprise if I overdo it just a bit while being perfect each for their own qualities if used in small quantities (Lavender, Trainwreck) or are simply one-hit-quitter strains that I might want to toke more on because of flavor (Bad Azz Kush). The others, like WW, I really can smoke quite a bit of without becoming anxious, but yeah, if I would smoke a big blunt of WW in one go that might be a bit anxiety provoking. But then again that’s far from necessary to get me in enjoyable atmospheres. I mean I’ll smoke that blunt down to the crutch but it’s going to lay in the tray for a couple hrs once or twice too.

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Couldn’t agree more. WW = very panic inducing for me.

Cheese and Pineapple on the other hand are super relaxing.

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I hear that a lot about WW.

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