Most of us are open to new information, but your proof is Thrip infested moldy plants from a Lab that was fined for violations related to testing and reporting for pesticides, yeasts and molds, and THC content.
You were purposefully deceitful in not including the 4th page, so I will repost them here.
Ok, but do you wet trim your weed or do you not to prep it for the dehydration?
Looks like an earlier version was clear. The green is a new feature.
https://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/rjnnaj/whats_your_opinion_on_the_herbsnow/
I think this would definitely speed up the transition to CBN as it has been known that to get CBN all you have to do is just expose your cannabis to light.
The green still would not block out everything and would still have âoxidation.â Not even all bud is green now. A lot of it is purple. Just check out cookies website. Iâm pointing this out because at the time of this âtestâ in 2019, the model seems to not have the green tint and would not be the same as the current model so the data would not even be accurate, even if it wasnât over 5% thrips.
Iâve been on this forum less than a year and a half but one thing Iâve quickly picked up on here about these so called âclownsâ is there tendency to come at âsketchyâ stuff a little hard to protect growers who are new to it and itâs appreciated. Iâm not an educated man but it seems to me that if you want call the traditional method of drying a scam, the burden of proof is on you and it needs to be in your opening statement rather than telling someone âgo look it upâ. Unfortunately I cannot afford to buy multiple units to dry a typical harvest for me but luckily my solid 14 days in 60âish degree temps worked just fine preserving those wonderfully delicious terps and potency.
Iâve yet to see replies to any of the most compelling messages in the thread, only low hanging fruits.
still waiting for actual answers to these. what a shit show. Reading has been a guilty pleasure though.
Slow grown - 120 days
Slow n low dry - 55° 60% 14 days
Slow Cold cure - 55° 547.5 days
Seriously whatâs the rush?
I believe you may have misjudged your target audienceâs tenacity and sleuthing skills when it comes to blindly accepting being told whatâs best for them.
I personally am a huge fan of a slow meticulous drying process while it may in fact be more expensive it produces terpy flavor rich buds that go the distance and far outshines any fast dried shwag.
Dont fret, Iâm certain there is a consumer market for you out there, im more certain though that connoisseurs will continue to do what works for them.
Thank you @Low.Poly
Somehow I missed that great informative post and the response. He did respond but it is just wrong.
It goes along with my post. CBGA metabol⌠i mean oxidizes into THCA. I have plants that have been enzymatically shut off to only produce CBGA and not âoxidizeâ into THCA. There have been claims that this was also found in traditional breeding. I am skeptical but it is possible to be bred toward CBG A instead of THC. High CBGA only leads to > THC and > CBD and a lil other cannabinoids. I think dude is punching above his weight class. It doesnât really matter what truth is or what is real, he just wants to recoup his latest round of manufacturing investment.
I think you are wrongđŻ
Absolutly love seeing the denial. Hey if what you said held water the lab testing would show it but it does not. Think about that. Sorry this is something every grower needs to be aware of. Not here to to hate, or make you mad but facts are facts. If you do not like the data, if it hurt your feelings well they say the truth hurts sometimes. Oxidation is not good. You can talk your BS all you want but the truth always come to the topđŻ
Showed the entrie community there is a better and safer way and you are in denile.
That is a river I have dreamed about fishing for a number of years. I fear Iâm about too old to take a trip like that but fortunately I donât have to think about it as I couldnât afford it. But Denile river is loaded with some fish I would love to get on my line.
All good @LoveDaAutos I needed a good chuckle today, tell you what @HerbsNOW Iâll climb all the way up to the tippy top of that high horse you are on and meet you half way. In the sport of bro lets both grow the same cut of your choosing I will dry and cure my way and you yours and we will both send them to a lab of my choice and see who dun it better.
Wow, this went off the rails quickly lol⌠I thought about this a few times. There is definitely some small percentage of benefit to be gained from avoiding mold growth during drying and curing. But we need to have some data to support anything other than that. Youâre dealing with a bunch of scientists we all run our own little experiments all day year after year. We are difficult to convince of anything with out data lol. Youâll have to show the data to support your theory, and you might gain some support. Iâm actually proud we can all come together so united (actually insulted ). Cheers Everyone!!!
@HerbsNOW epic sales opportunity here!
Allison Justice (PhD) had a great talk on drying and curing and mentioned the benefits to rapid drying for the first day or couple days to drop the water activity level below the viable range for molds and other contaminants to grow or multiply, followed by a slow dry time of 10-14ish days, if I remember correctly.
I totally agree with this⌠I follow these principles for the first 3 days during drying. I am part of the DIY wine fridge dryer club here and we definitely have these types of topics come up. We all agree on the first 3 days you need to drop moisture to a safe level. For us we drop 1 point RH per day for the first 3 or 4 days to drop below 68% . After that we slow it way way down to .5 max per day and try to continue drying for 14 plus days in total. My point is I agree with the first 3 days being critical for mold growth. The only reason itâs critical for us it the enclosed environment inside our dryerâs, this traps moisture ect. In the open air traditional dry tech this is not a concern. In fact, itâs the other way youâre usually trying to slow it down from day one. Cheers !!!
Biased, LoL nice tryđ¤Ł
This is why you are confused. They are separate rates. 
I think itâs funny you guys pick and choose the info that fits your liking and dismiss everything that goes against it. This is very simple. Oxidation happens faster at room temp. Game over.
Right⌠so, theyâre separate, yet temperature affects the rate of oxidation⌠which occurs faster at room temp than what? Colder temps, correct. So again, please explain the mechanism by which, if oxidation is the enemy, increasing the rate of oxidation by increasing the temperature and exposure to fresh air reduces oxidation.
No, fresh air does not reduce oxidation. Listen you can dance around this all you want. But at normal room temps oxidation happenes faster than thermal break down. So for exampleâŚtrying to save terps by drying at a lower temp only allows more time for oxidation to break things down and you retain less. Did you know that durning a 9 week curing process you can expect to lose up to 50% of your total terpene content. Yes, oxidation is not a good thing and it happens pretty fast.
For saving terpenes at time of harvest, optimal would be vacuum freeze drying. It is even cited by studies. This is for people growing warehouses full of shit that they donât cure at all and then send to dispensaries so they can say their stuff has high terp counts in the lab. Anyone doing this in small quantities would just be at a disadvantage. People buy $3-20k freeze dryers for this.
It is a bad argument because someone that grows something, hang dries it slowly and then cures it correctly at optimum conditions will have better cannabis after 3-6 months. I know because iâve bought a lot of this dispensary bud here and it is exactly like you are saying. High in terps on paper but smokes like shit.
