Yeah, that’s also true, same with Lebanon unfortunately. Their hashish is not what is was.
We have seen this all over the globe and the genetical diversity in cannavis we once had is not coming back. That’s why I’m your biggest fan @Upstate, your documentation of these landrace cultivars are priceless.
Pz 
My research says hemp is to blame is each case. The quality is still in there, but it’s much harder to find now.
Oh, you think that? I’ve always heard of stories about that they got “indica” seeds in the late 80s and started to dilute their sativa genetics which made the initial cultivar so special. Instead of being the clear mind opening high, it going lazy and narcotic. This is why people are searching for the real kalamata red, because it’s related to the old Lebanon sativa. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Pz
That is what I heard about moroccan. Exactly what you just said. I haven’t heard that about lebanese. Seems a solid Indica to me, with Hempy Sativa phenos. Sinai has Indica and Sativa phenos. Sudan too. Its quite possible Lebanese was the same, but how did the plants all get to look like Indicas then? There is limited selecting done in Lebanon, and it would take a dedicated selection effort to isolate the Indica. I read about Hemp being brought to Bekka Valley in the 80’s. The Sativa pheno I had was hemp. All others were short and squat.
Even Mazar I sharif has Sativa phenos 100 years after hybridizing.
The Lebanese blond hash was from early peak potency harvest, the red hash from a later pick.
Just talking about it makes me wanna try these: https://www.aceseeds.org/en/brands/aceseedsrd/marruecosbeldiaf1-regular-342.html
Pz 
Maybe the same thing happened in Lebanon as in Afghanistan? . Hybridization with Indica in the 30’s-70’s. Seems like I’d have read about this…but maybe not. The Beldia is said to have decended from Lebanese, and it’s all Sativa.
One thing though. If Hybridization happened in Lebanon, where are the Sativa phenos? I had 25 plants and all but the one hemp pheno were 2 feet tall, round extra leafy bushes.
@lefthandseeds might have an answer for ya 
Maybe here?
By sativa phenos, are you talking buzz? Or structure/size? Or leaf shape? @upstate reason I ask it like that is I’ve heard of a leb with sativa buzz but that all really and only like once or twice it’s definitely not a common occurrence
I think strains from this area don’t really fit the indica/sativa mold. But there’s definitely both NLD and BLD phenos in Lebanese. The RSC Lebanese trend toward BLD, but others like Blue Hemp Lebanese and Leb27 can produce some pretty NLD phenos.
For me, I don’t usually get couchlock from very many Lebanese strains.
Yeah, I’ve always heard from the old trippy hash hippies here in Northern Sweden, that the old leb was electric and trippy with an come down that made people fall asleep. Never smoked hash like this that wasn’t temple eggs(hand rubbed charas smuggled by ingestion coming out egg-shaped), so that’s why I tend to believe the kalamata red story about being from the original leb hashish.
Pz
Hey man, long time, I never got a chance to share with you all the photos I took last October, now that I have the full resolution photos with me, wanted to share them with you
These ones are all from lapas, near manikaran
These are from grahan
Wow, what an experience. Beautiful pictures 
Pz
That’s beautiful bro! So what’s it smoke like? Flavor? Smell? Buzz? Length of flower time? Thanks PS oh cool it’s India not far from pravati 
Hey buddy. Nice to hear from you. Beautiful pictures! What a magical place. You are so lucky you get to go there. You’re right about those Lapas plants having chunky buds. Some are real chunky.
All three…with leaf shape mattering the least.
Maybe it depends on the field? RSC is definitely bld, but like you say the others look different, and are older collections. Probably can’t rule out that sneaky Dutch trick of" forgetting" additions to the genepool. Indicas were added to sativas to bulk them up, and vice versa…sativas were added to indicas to give them some stretch/ size/ faster growth.
I’m looking forward to trying yours out. Plants get transplanted today, then pictures. They are growing good now, after less than ideal starting conditions. That’s how it is here at Upstate headquarters😁 Sissy strains get babied, while the tough ones live or don’t. Lebanese are tough.
Kalamata can reach 18+feet though, so there is something else in it for sure. I think you are right that there are Middle Eastern hashplant genes in there too, but Lebanese was never that big.
Makes you wonder what the other part of kalamata red is. Area wise, African sativa seems most logical but I don’t really think the kalamata from TRSC looked a lot like any African I’ve grown. Do you got any suggestions?
Pz
I just have theories. Some have suggested Colombian is in there. I think its possible that Alexander the Great brought back Genetics from Afghanistan or Pakistan, but it’s just a weak theory.
