lol nice wilbury’s reference - I got it
Well, if you are of weak constitution, now is the time to look away.
Are these dead now? They’ve dried out, and now the leaves are all crispy and falling off. Any hope for them?
Looks pretty bad for sure, hard to say without seeing and feeling them in person, but think they are probably done for.
Maybe that was it , you will get the point of watering and your plants will reward you, maybe they stressed and hadn’t time to recover, they like routine, steadiness and of course high dosis of LITFA, sorry for your loss …
It definitely was the overwatering compounding, I’m convinced. Suffocated them for sure, 50/50 on if I dried them out. The soil is still wet, but the plants have remained dry and lifeless… I just put up their new tent too. Lol… oh well, I hope it won’t be a problem in the future now that I have a little better idea on watering. Really overwatered them young, and frequently. Really should’ve stuck harder to the flood/drought concept. I’ll have to really be religious with in the future. My bigger plants are doing better, I can judge the weight difference way easier in 3 gal compared to 1 gal. All things considered, not too painful. Wish I planted those seeds I was tempted to earlier though.
Well, moving forward; 5 gallon pots. I’m defiantly going to transplant the flowering ladies into 5 gal in a few weeks, and I’m more and more considering planting the seed right in the 5 gal pots, and putting a humidity dome over the seed, and mist it only around the seedling for a while. Transplanting seems more PITA than it is helpful, since I have plans to have 6 plants at (relatively) all times, and my setup fits 5 gal pots well.
I wouldn’t transplant in flowering stage, 3 gallons is enough unless you want to create monsters. If you start with compostable pots for seedlings, they will show you the roots outside and you will only have to plug them in a hole in your 1 gallon fabric pot. Some days before flipping, just transplant them to the final 3 gallons and that’s it.
If you have a look at the 16 oz cup contest, you will find out as I did that what is important is how you feed them, not the size of the pot. Planting directly in 5 gal was intended for autos so they would not be stressed by transplant, but even now there are many people transplanting them.
It’s important to create a good root structure, I water in circles around the stem so they expand horizontally looking for humidity. With fabric pots you will not have problems while transplanting. Just use a method that works and keep with it …
The size is largely because in general, I’m meaning to keep it water only. In different times I’m not home nearly as much, to the point I need someone else to water sometimes. So to keep it easy to explain, water only. I don’t know though… I’m leaning toward more teas… actually, maybe I’m just dumb, but I suppose you don’t HAVE to be super regular with the food, only water, right?
Sorry, I missed the point that you were in organics, you’re right, you need then bigger pots to buffer. I use bottles, forget about what I’ve said, organics is like voodoo science to me …
Edit: Now I understand, your member name fooled me …
With soil, if the mix is right you shouldn’t really need anything else throughout the run. That being, said soil does create a buffer so if a “feeding” is missed by a day or two it won’t hurt much at all if any. Only when you get into soilless/ hydro grows you do have to be super religious with your feedings. Soil is forgiving to a point. Plus it doesn’t need fed as much as other methods. It’s mainly water only anyway if you start with good soil.
That’s a lot of trust. When I go away for longer periods of time I put my pots inside a bucket and make a reservoir that way. Works in a pinch.
I never give plain water. Every ml has feed in it of one strength or another. The only exception is an emergency flush.
Even in soil? I’ve never fed that heavy when using soil.
I suppose knowing how to cook the perfect organic soil will give you great harvest and easiest grows. Giving them just water looks very simple but attempting that high level of knowledge doesn’t seem to be an easy task, much respect for the sorciers …
I do feed everytime. But at very low concentrations. So they always have food to eat.
Edit - oh, i see, in soil. I don’t grow in soil I use promix.
All the best
It’s a lot of trust but, after all, it is the woman who gave me life. She’s more afraid of killing them than I am… and I have a webcam in the grow tent. If I give her clear directions she’ll follow them just fine. Leave any room for questions and she loses her brain.
I figure I can get away with one extra step. EWC tea is probably my solution here, if I leave instructions on how to make it and it just needs to be applied? Yeah, that’ll work.
Why did I chose organics? I just enjoy learning the most difficult way possible I guess. I’m very much of the organic mindset, but it’s a bit much to learn off the bat… or to get to step two I should say. I breached step one, growing at all. Now step two, growing better, that’s eluding me, lol.
I moved away from fabric pots and back to plastic due to their poor ability to maintain decent saturation levels. They now have fabric pots with plastic lining to help with this situation. It was also a pain in the ass to transplant from fabric pots. Also, if there is peatmoss in your soil, the soil will by hydrophobic on the outside and anaerobic on the inside.
Oh my. That’s horrible bro. You’ll get the hang of it. I have alot of respect for organic growing.
My estimation on it is my soil wasn’t properly draining, think I destroyed some air pockets etc. I think I may add more pearlite. I quite like the fabric pots, it seems like it more evenly dries the soil. When I over watered, at a certain point the soil was holding onto well too much water in the root zone while drying out around the pot. Again, I think I mostly caused this myself, the soil in the larger pots I’ve taken more care with watering is still light and fluffy, draining as I would expect.
One thing I debated doing that I think I would definitely try is aerating the soil with a chopstick or something. That may have given much needed O2. I believe what happened here is I was using LITFA improperly, I watered too much and didn’t do much to revive them. It’s all probably irrelevant, time to move on! I seem to have a better handle on watering, and I know to stop way earlier if I notice the symptoms. Seems very easy to avoid this time. Thanks to everyone! I probably would’ve kill all of my plants if left alone… over watering is really the silent killer for sure.
That’s heart breaking, sorry to hear you lost the girls.
Good news is you’ve gained experience
Run off is very important you want your plants to suck o2 into the soil when watering . Plus flushing build up salts is a must .
I will say this- run off is not happening here. Any run off I get is usually because the water went down the side of the pot, going right through the fabric.
Organic should mean no concern over salt fertilizer buildup, right?
But I have been ignoring that important fact, run off does help O2. It just seems like I’m really swamping it to create run off. But I suppose it’s not uncommon. Next watering will be strict drought/flood. I’ve been worried about giving them much more than 1 gallon each, but if it’s not enough to create runoff… Essentially it seems better to overkill with the flood, so long as you’re willing to wait out the drought. I wasn’t, and watered to early.