Tony's silver thiosulfate notes

This thread is to document my sts notes. and to share knowledge not sell it for 500 a quart like Hyb.

Study on storage of sts.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0304423885900093

Dilution calculator :

Foliar Sprays of Silver Thiosulfate Produce Male Flowers on Female Hemp Plants
in HortTechnology

Authors: Jessica D. Lubell 1 and Mark H. Brand 1

Pollen Appearance and In Vitro Germination Varies for Five Strains of Female Hemp Masculinized Using Silver Thiosulfate
Jessica DiMatteo, Lauren Kurtz, and Jessica D. Lubell-Brand

PREPARATION OF SILVER THIOSULFATE (STS) SOLUTION

Sigma-Aldrich:
Silver Thiosulfate (STS) is commonly used to block the action of ethylene in plant cell cultures. Ethylene is a hormone that is present in the gaseous state. Ethylene increases during senescence and ripening, and has been shown to increase in plant cell cultures due to
wounding or the presence of auxins. Silver nitrate may be used alone to block the action of ethylene but it is not transported as well as STS thus is seldom used alone.

Prepare a 0.1 M Sodium Thiosulfate (STS) stock solution by dissolving 1.58 g of Sodium Thiosulfate anhydrous or 2.48 g sodium thiosulfate pentahydrate(x1.56) into 100 ml of water.

Prepare a 0.1 M Silver Nitrate stock solution by dissolving 1.7 g of Silver Nitrate into 100 ml of water. Store the stock solution in the dark until needed to prepare the STS.

The STS solution is prepared with a molar ratio between silver and thiosulfate of 1:4, respectively. Nearly all of the silver present in the solution is in the form of [Ag (S2O3)2]3-, the active complex for ethylene effect inhibition.

Prepare a 0.02 M STS by slowly pouring 20 ml of 0.1 M silver nitrate stock solution into 80 ml of 0.1 M sodium thiosulfate stock solution while stirring vigorously.The STS can be stored in the refrigerator for up to a month. However, preparation of the STS just prior to use.

Dilution strengths quick reference :

100 ml .02 M sts solution at:

20mM straight stock
15mM add 33 ml water
10mM add 100 ml water
6mM add 233 ml water
5mM add 300 ml water
4mM add 400 ml water
3mM: add 557 ml water
2mM add 900 ml water
1.5mM add 1230 ml water
1mM add 1900 ml water
.5 mM add 3900 ml water
.3mM add 6570 ml water

I did some math for adjusting the sigma recipe for no left overs: for 300 ml .02M sts the recipe is

1.0192 grams silver nitrate in 60 ml water
And
5.9566 grams sodium thiosulfate pentahydrate in 240 ml water
Or
3.7946 grams sodium thio anhydrous in 240 ml water

Forum recipe:

Dissolve .5 grams of silver nitrate in 500 ml water (stock A.)
Dissolve 2.5 grams sodium thiosulfate anhydrous in 500 ml water (stock b)
Store separately in cool dark place for later use.
Slowly pour 50 ml silver stock A solution into 50 ml stock B sodium solution slowly over 30 seconds.
Label sts stock solution and dilute with ro water as needed.

Stock A Silver Nitrate .005 M or 5 mM
Stock B Sodium Thiosulfate 0.031M or 31mM

Stock STS .0025 M or 2.5mM

Dilution strengths quick reference:

100 ml .0025 M sts solution at:

20mM -
15mM -
10mM -
6mM -
5mM -
4mM -
3mM: -
2.5mM Straight Stock
2mM add 25 ml water
1.5mM add 67 ml water
1.25mM 100 ml water
1mM add 150 ml water
.5 mM add 400 ml water
.3mM add 733 ml water

Popular anecdotal forum dilution ratios:

1:9 .25mM
1:6 .357mM
Tom Hill (about twice strength) .5mM
Country mon between 1:9 and 1:5 .25mM to .4mM

Shout out to Dankcat for helping me understand the math here.
If you have 100 pieces of bread but only 1 piece of cheese how many sandwhiches can you make?

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This is a continuation of my popular IC thread. Hopefully give some people the tools and info they need to succeed. At least with exact measurements the anecdotal stories can be repeated by others with some accuracy and precision.

Please share your results with strength and spray schedule!

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Excellent, I shall enter the laboratory…Bwaaa haha

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Gracias broski, appreciate the knowledge

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@Tonygreen thanks! I’ve been looking for a thread like this. Very much appreciated!

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Thanks @Tonygreen

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Great info @Tonygreen
I used the amount that Sebring suggested in his how to video and it worked for me on my first and only reversal of a cut of DLA 5. :green_heart:

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Excellent! Thanks for sharing!
8nhC

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Thank You and bookmarked!

:green_heart: :seedling:

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Bookmarked, thanks. I tried it once and it killed the plant, so I’ve stuck with CS. I should give this another try, I have the chemicals still.

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@Lobstah and @LedZeppelin
Some more STS info if you want/need it.

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Thanks a ton, very timely, and I’m trying to read everything available on STS.

Lob

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Here’s a thread I spun up a few months back on my first time out looking for some guidance and some great responses. Silver Thiosulfate - Making feminized seeds

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Thanks…will check it out now.

Lob

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Ty! I was actually meaning to do some in depth research on this. But here it is :joy::pray:.

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that long-term cold storage of prepared STS solutions is feasible.
this is a quote from article on first post
so it mesns that i can store it for more then 30days in fridge

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After a year its still good

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thanx its good to know i bought some sts from amazon and was wondering about when mixing it for when i plan to use it

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this is a one bottle recipe im going to try like in 2 weeks

So this is for just for one bottle so not so much waste and dont need to store the a = b mix

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I broke down and bought a bottle off Amazon…think it was around $30ish

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