Cant really swing a small heater due to electricity costs (the smallest heaters use more watts than my entire grow)
I’ve turned off all the exhausts and have gotten the temp up to 24C in the mars tent and 21C in the bridgelux.
I cant help but think though, that I’ve grown this exact strain in much much lower temps from start to finish and had no issues at all.
I know, one heater uses more than my tent and clone cab lights and fans combined, but they don’t run all the time probably only 5 minutes every hour when the lights are off. The tents seem to hold the heat fairly well with the reflective coating inside and I shut the door to the room at night about 30 minutes before lights out so the heat in the room is retained.
Its definitely not much fun when you are low on the $ for anything extra.
Tell me about it. My dehumidifier pulls 4 amps.
Chin up Trevor. You’re experimenting, sometimes they don’t work well.
Take care of yourself and be well.
Hang in there! Everything is gonna be okay. ((hugs))
Just spent the last hour and a half reading through this, those autos came out really nice after such a worrying start. You should be proud man.
@TrevorLahey I hope things are okay with you. 
He’s just feeling discouraged, should post hought good and or bad @TrevorLahey 
Thanks for the kind words everyone.
Yeah the grow is just terrible and things just keep getting worse. My seedlings are dying or stunting out within days of being sprouted. Things are growing so slow its laughable. I just cant solve what’s happening and like @Mr.Sparkle said it best I’m just discouraged.
The smaller ones are a month old now, the more mature ones like 45 days or something I’m not even keeping track anymore.
The new seedlings all started to droop and die over the last few days, they’re about 8 days old now.
Sorry for not checking in, not like me to completely check out like this but I’m losing my shit as of late 
Sorry you’re having issues.
How far away are your lights? Im thinking you may have too much light. My dad struggles with this too.
I know when I switched to LEDs for my seedlings, I had to turn the light way down. Basically went from 96-watts of T5HO to 14 watts of Samsung strips.
Later in flower, the plants seem to be able to be pushed a little more. Didn’t you build this new light in the middle of a cycle? Is this your first time using the new light?
Otherwise, check the roots for pathogens or pests. Make sure the root ball isn’t cold.
My last run was under these strips start to finish, same environment only in soil.
It may be too much light though, not ruling it out. When I was having these issues in the mars tent I moved the light up to the top of the tent and started more but still the same thing happened.
Cold roots maybe? I’m wondering if I should just start them in smaller containers with my tray and heat mat then up pot them, but as you know that’s not ideal with autos.
As for temps ive managed to get things in the 22-25C range by turning down or disabling exhausts. The RH in the bridgelux tent is 40% which i admit is really low for starting seeds. The RH in the mars tent is 50-60 with the exhaust disabled.
All these adjustments and none of them have really yielded any positive results things are still annoyingly slow.
You know, having done it a couple times now I’m changing my opinion on that matter. I think if you transplant gently, before they get root bound, it can work out just fine.
Just out of curiosity, do you always let the coco dry out this much? I ask because I never allow that to happen in mine, and the results when it does happen are often similar.
I went through about a two year period where every plant died a long, lingering, horrible, ugly “death by degrees”. It was honestly just a race to get every plant to provide me with something smokeable (or some seeds) before it died. I often lost that race, tbh.
I tried everything I could think of. Every medium, every grow style, every nutrient or additive or living soil recipe I could find. I’d grown happy plants before, and couldn’t for the life of me figure out why I was killing everything now.
I can’t even describe how depressing it was. I thought about just giving up forever every. single. day.
I’m pretty glad I didn’t, now.
I managed to figure out the biggest problem I was facing (off gassing, and my futile attempts to fix a problem I couldn’t diagnose made things worse), and addressing that allowed me to progress bit by bit to get back to the point where I was once again growing fairly happy and productive plants. I still may not have the prettiest plants around, but I’m never short of good smoke, so I’m pleased at the progress.
So I feel ya, brother.
Best wishes and good vibes to you, I hope things start turning around for you soon!
If I wet the coco the next day the top looks dry like this, it’s only the top 1/4" or so.
And yeah, I’ve been battling this issue for 2 months now and theres just no end in sight. I’ve technically lost a whole grow (in time) trying to diagnose.
Just looking for that smoking gun.
Thinking I’ll pick up some more coco and get some seeds started in a tray and dome. Just keep starting seeds until something works, even though that’s what I’ve been doing lol if that plants keep growing slow like this I’ll need 80 plants to fill these spaces anyway.
not sure you’ll find it, more like my current issues of being a series of things.
I uppotted every single one of mine. No problem
Well things are still alive
New seedlings have domes now seems to help get the temps and RH up alot.
Started 21 new seeds too, in 3" pots, in a tray and dome, with a heat mat. Going to run them in the closet under low wattage until they’re ready to be up potted. Hoping this makes for some stronger starts.
Nice to see you back Trevor, it’s not the same with you and HardRock being away.
21 seeds, that’s a lot, are they fem autos?
I use a dome on winter time for my seedlings, just the first 3-4 days, as a buffer in case the temp drops a lot for any reason.
Hopefully that heatpad will make a positive difference.
Yeah all fem autos mostly Dark Spark “ATM” phenos since I have alot of them and a couple surprises in there too.
I just want to get back on track where things are growing like I’m used to. I dont know where I went wrong but god do i miss being happy about my grow. Will see how things start when hot and wet…
I know what you mean man, I really get depressed when they have problems, but as soon as it starts to correct, I am like a different person. They say plants bond with their carer and get stressed when their carer gets stressed, perhaps it’s a viscous circle 
I really am not keeping track of days at this point so cant really say how old alot of these are lol
Mars tent is okay, looks like most of the plants will just be single cola so I should get 10 or so big buds in the end lol things are pretty cool in here still at 20C with the exhaust on, if I turn the exhaust off though the humidity gets way too high (85%+) so I have to keep the fan on and just accept the low temps
And the AK47 finally got over whatever it was going through and perked back up.
The bridgelux tent has a few crinkle mutants, not a big deal as I planted seeds alongside them and will just let the plants share the pot as they will likely have more than enough room. They really seem to like the domes, the RH in the dome is 85%+ and 30C temperature. I have the exhaust turned off for this tent and its 24C and 50% in the tent itself.
Unfortunately I only had 3 domes and 4 pots. These ones dont have a done but seem to be doing okay too. Not really sure what’s up with the spots on the one plant but whatever theres two in it lol
And I started 21 more seeds. I decided not to soak and paper towel as I noticed on my last direct sew attempt that seeds sprouted quicker with direct sew than soak and paper towel.
I’m hoping the dome and heatmat speeds things up since I really think low temps and rh have played a big role in the slow starts I’ve been getting.
